who will save a ju-88?
Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:26 pm
this ju-88 is on an island, a weather research island with only 6 people on it. this is a recent photo and its in very good condition. who will save it?
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:29 pm
Wow! 
Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:31 pm
Well thats quite a find. I bet this thread will be receiving lots of attention!
Any more information on the island or wreck? When was the picture taken?
I'd imagine that a JU-88 in this shape would be more well known unless it was very isolated...
Looks very complete.
Any more information on the island or wreck? When was the picture taken?
I'd imagine that a JU-88 in this shape would be more well known unless it was very isolated...
Looks very complete.
Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:32 pm
I thought this had been recovered a while back.
Shay
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Shay
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Semper Fortis
Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:33 pm
Norway? Russian? Or is it secret to keep the looters away!! Looks like a VERY good start for a restoration. Much more than a data plate!
Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:34 pm
What Island?
Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:35 pm
its on a jointly operated european island about 8 hours boat ride north of the murman region in northern russia. i have a friend in murmansk who knows about the place. its called spitsbergen.
there are 6 weather people on the island at a time located about 40 miles north of this site.
the island was used by germany in ww2, now its used by norway, finland, russia etc
there are 6 weather people on the island at a time located about 40 miles north of this site.
the island was used by germany in ww2, now its used by norway, finland, russia etc
Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:35 pm
I googled the photographers name and came up with this...
http://www.hustadnes.net/Tur/Svalbard/Hornsund1_eng.htm
A Polish polar research station...
http://www.hustadnes.net/Tur/Svalbard/Hornsund1_eng.htm
A Polish polar research station...
Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:37 pm
spitsbergen
Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:49 pm
http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/borthen.html
Junkers Ju 88 A-4 Kapp Borthen, Svalbard
8./III./KG 30 4D+GS W.Nr.088142 121(W.Nr.1456) 14.09 1942
The A/C made a successful belly landing on the sandfloes at Kapp Borthen, after an attack on Allied Convoy PQ.18. Ofw.Paul Füllborn. Uffz. Wilhelm Mietz. Uffz.Reinhard Spielberg and Ofw.Siegfried Matschke were all uninjured. After landing they destroyed the aircraft. Two days later they were discovered by a searching He 111H-6 (von Gall), They dropped a message with instructions to march north to base Sönak. They reached the base later on the same day and were rescued back to Banak in von Gall's Heinkel. Two months later KG 30 was transferred to the Mediterranian. On 9. November they were all killed when their plane was shot down off North Africa.
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Junkers Ju 88 A-4 Kapp Borthen, Svalbard
8./III./KG 30 4D+GS W.Nr.088142 121(W.Nr.1456) 14.09 1942
The A/C made a successful belly landing on the sandfloes at Kapp Borthen, after an attack on Allied Convoy PQ.18. Ofw.Paul Füllborn. Uffz. Wilhelm Mietz. Uffz.Reinhard Spielberg and Ofw.Siegfried Matschke were all uninjured. After landing they destroyed the aircraft. Two days later they were discovered by a searching He 111H-6 (von Gall), They dropped a message with instructions to march north to base Sönak. They reached the base later on the same day and were rescued back to Banak in von Gall's Heinkel. Two months later KG 30 was transferred to the Mediterranian. On 9. November they were all killed when their plane was shot down off North Africa.
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:04 pm
This wreck is very well known, and not a new find...
It's been subject to much controverse over the years because it is protected by norwegian law and are to be left on site as a war relic.
Even the norwegian defense museum has had no luck in gaining access to this particular wreck (or to any other WWII wreck that might be on Spitsbergen/Svalbard).
Thankfully, there have been a few Ju88s recovered from mainland Norway that are currently being restored to static condition.
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It's been subject to much controverse over the years because it is protected by norwegian law and are to be left on site as a war relic.
Even the norwegian defense museum has had no luck in gaining access to this particular wreck (or to any other WWII wreck that might be on Spitsbergen/Svalbard).
Thankfully, there have been a few Ju88s recovered from mainland Norway that are currently being restored to static condition.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:43 pm
If I were President, I'd do an executive order that all restored aircraft able to fly must fly.
Go ahead, flame away, I don't care.
Rich
Go ahead, flame away, I don't care.
Rich
Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:57 pm
Yes, along time memorial and well known. A better condition (land example ) was recovered and has just returned to Noway from restoration in Hungary, it will be handed over at an official ceremony in January. The Norwegians have a lot of Ju 88 wrecks on their books ( in various condition) so they are not short of what they need for this type.
Dave
Dave
Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:59 pm
Lets NOT get into another flame war of to fly or not to fly. This is a different war, to let rot or get in out of the elements!! Whole different set of flamers here! As the crew walked away from this one....that makes it easy in my book. If the crew had died in it, that muddies the water somewhat. How would it go over if someone wanted to raise the Arizona and rebuild her? Not well!
Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:20 pm
wow that's a beauty!! this is the 1st i've heard of it. sounds like somebody's going to need pretty sharp scissors to cut through all the multi government red tape to get that gem out.