T-28 vs T-6 past
Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:39 am
Mudge asked a question about "youse troops" not seeming to like T-28s. I was confused as to the language at first, then realized " youse" may be Brooklynese for you. So I translated it into Texan, and could work with youall not seeming to like T-28s.
Anyway, I gave my OPINION,with the disclaimer that I only had a little 28 experience which prompted other WIX guys to turn off Ultimate Fighting and perhpaps even turn down Rush, long enough to tell me I was wrong.
Jack posted a photo and wrote of a hor stab being damaged in the military. I replied on that subject, Based On My Memeory from back about 13 years. Of course, now I was even wronger. And as I wrote, I wasn't certain, I just recall it that way, and of a mod or fix.
I did not have access to all the NATA articles, or the Osh forums. I did read a NTSB report, which does Not mention previous hor stab cracks or problems. So where did I get my idea? I looked farther.
Then I found that Hellcat had started a topic on Jan, 03, 08, of T-28 vs T-6. It had some good info, and some good humor, at least on the part of the T-6 guys, IN MY OPINION. Anyway BDK gave a good summary of the pros and cons of each type. Then, guess what, THERE IT WAS. under cons for T-28, he wrote about "Cracks in Horizontal Stab, Mod."
So at least one other guy seemed to have the same impression or info that I had, and 12 months before this current topic, for whatever that is worth. Now if you look at BDK's photo, he is mostly hot air, with a little vinyl thrown in, and has no ears, so he could be right or wrong, but I know I didn't invent the idea. He also does not believe in global warming, which seemed silly until 2 nights ago when Denver broke the all time cold record for this date of 14 below zero. Hmmm. I think I'll look more.
Anyway, I gave my OPINION,with the disclaimer that I only had a little 28 experience which prompted other WIX guys to turn off Ultimate Fighting and perhpaps even turn down Rush, long enough to tell me I was wrong.
Jack posted a photo and wrote of a hor stab being damaged in the military. I replied on that subject, Based On My Memeory from back about 13 years. Of course, now I was even wronger. And as I wrote, I wasn't certain, I just recall it that way, and of a mod or fix.
I did not have access to all the NATA articles, or the Osh forums. I did read a NTSB report, which does Not mention previous hor stab cracks or problems. So where did I get my idea? I looked farther.
Then I found that Hellcat had started a topic on Jan, 03, 08, of T-28 vs T-6. It had some good info, and some good humor, at least on the part of the T-6 guys, IN MY OPINION. Anyway BDK gave a good summary of the pros and cons of each type. Then, guess what, THERE IT WAS. under cons for T-28, he wrote about "Cracks in Horizontal Stab, Mod."
So at least one other guy seemed to have the same impression or info that I had, and 12 months before this current topic, for whatever that is worth. Now if you look at BDK's photo, he is mostly hot air, with a little vinyl thrown in, and has no ears, so he could be right or wrong, but I know I didn't invent the idea. He also does not believe in global warming, which seemed silly until 2 nights ago when Denver broke the all time cold record for this date of 14 below zero. Hmmm. I think I'll look more.
Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:39 am
Most of what I was bloviating about had come from either the NATA magazine or EAA Warbirds as I recall.
I've only flown in a T-28A once, but I had no problem doing unassisted touch and goes from the back seat just being talked through it. Flew like a big Cherokee. With full flaps it felt like hanging from a parachute (although I have never done that). I'm no super stick, but it didn't seem like much of a challenge.
Glad to see that Bill is rethinking his opinion on global warming. Maybe we'll drum some rational thought into his head yet. Now that he's made the first leap, by this time next year he'll probably be both "Hannitized" and a "Dittohead" while vociferously rejecting his Michael Moore teachings!
I've only flown in a T-28A once, but I had no problem doing unassisted touch and goes from the back seat just being talked through it. Flew like a big Cherokee. With full flaps it felt like hanging from a parachute (although I have never done that). I'm no super stick, but it didn't seem like much of a challenge.
Glad to see that Bill is rethinking his opinion on global warming. Maybe we'll drum some rational thought into his head yet. Now that he's made the first leap, by this time next year he'll probably be both "Hannitized" and a "Dittohead" while vociferously rejecting his Michael Moore teachings!
Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:44 am
I think both sound cool on take off! 
Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:25 pm
Bill, you're not dreaming. I remember a fellow called John Morgan had a shop in Rockford, IL a few years back, specializing in T-28s. He was doing a mod for the horiz stab failure prevention. There had been several failures in military service, and at least one fatal civilian one that prompted him to start performing the mod. That said, the remote chance of failure is not nearly as daunting as the significant risk of engine failure on the -86 version of the R-1820.
Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:36 pm
Nathan wrote:I think both sound cool on take off!
I've not heard Bill or bdk on take off, and I don't want to. Their aircraft would be cool though. Did I misunderstand the question?
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:33 pm
Actuaaly Darton did the stab mod among other T-28 gizmos like the clean kit. John Morgon's Pride a/c sold and installed a number of them.