EDITED-Warbird Item(s) Custom Made For Jack Cook

Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:45 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Other-V ... 240%3A1318

or how about this, instead?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1960-signed-PAPPY-B ... 240%3A1318

Last edited by EDowning on Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:23 am, edited 1 time in total.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:52 am

That is like, uh, the BOMB! :lol:

Ryan

Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:13 am

Believe it not that is a no-no in Kaleefornia. :roll:

For some reason they felt they needed to protect us from owning dummy bombs or grenades. Their excuse was that gang members get ahold of them and make real ones out of them. :lol:

That is pretty cool though.

Les

Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:20 am

Big Grey wrote:

Believe it not that is a no-no in Kaleefornia.

Anything that is fun is against the law in that state. I'm surprised they haven't made them move Chino to Arizona yet. :roll:

Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:27 am

BigGrey wrote:Believe it not that is a no-no in Kaleefornia.
For some reason they felt they needed to protect us from owning dummy bombs or grenades. Their excuse was that gang members get ahold of them and make real ones out of them.
That is pretty cool though.

Les

So, what happens if you land a warbird in California that has dummy bombs underneath it? Does it get confiscated? Do you get a citation or what?

What an assinine rule.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:30 am

EDowning wrote:Big Grey wrote:
Believe it not that is a no-no in Kaleefornia.

Anything that is fun is against the law in that state. I'm surprised they haven't made them move Chino to Arizona yet.

That is why I'm moving to Nevada. Things outlawed here are legal there.

Les

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:02 am

warbird1 wrote:So, what happens if you land a warbird in California that has dummy bombs underneath it? Does it get confiscated? Do you get a citation or what?

What an assinine rule.

When they passed the law about ten years ago, we went to Cable Airport in Upland for a fly-in about two weeks after the law took effect. We had the usual Chino contingent of BirdDogs and Stearmans. Frank Vranicar had his L-19 with the four dummy bombs under the wings.

The Ontario Fire Dept. showed up. Evidently one of the firemen is part of the bomb squad. He proceeded to go nuts about the dummy bombs and demanded they be removed from the plane so he could confiscate them. Frank showed him they were fiberglass bodies with real tailfins but the guy didn't care. Finally after much discussion he decided they could remain but stated they should be removed in the future. Then the fireman looked in the cockpit and saw two dummy grenades hanging on web gear on the seatback. He went and got an Upland cop and proceeded to confiscate the grenades. No mention was made of the M-1 carbine next to the front seat, he just wanted those grenades. The fireman also confiscated dummy grenades from a vendor at the show.

The cop was actually pretty cool and stated he would have had Frank remove the grenades from plain sight and put them under the seat but the fireman was a jerk and demanded the grenades. We even got the cop to handcuff Frank V. so Frank Mormillo could take a picture which was then put in Pacific Flyer and the look on Frank V's face was priceless.

The next week Frank V. called the Ontario Fire Dept. and raised holy heck. They asked him to come over to the station and when he did the fireman who had confiscated the grenades returned them to Frank V. and made an apology. It turns out the Fire Chief was pissed his boys left the city while on duty with the equipment and went to the airshow and acted like the Gestapo.

I do believe they have since interpeted or changed the law to allow museums or historical displays to have them.

Les

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:08 am

BigGrey wrote:
warbird1 wrote:So, what happens if you land a warbird in California that has dummy bombs underneath it? Does it get confiscated? Do you get a citation or what?

What an assinine rule.

When they passed the law about ten years ago, we went to Cable Airport in Upland for a fly-in about two weeks after the law took effect. We had the usual Chino contingent of BirdDogs and Stearmans. Frank Vranicar had his L-19 with the four dummy bombs under the wings.

The Ontario Fire Dept. showed up. Evidently one of the firemen is part of the bomb squad. He proceeded to go nuts about the dummy bombs and demanded they be removed from the plane so he could confiscate them. Frank showed him they were fiberglass bodies with real tailfins but the guy didn't care. Finally after much discussion he decided they could remain but stated they should be removed in the future. Then the fireman looked in the cockpit and saw two dummy grenades hanging on web gear on the seatback. He went and got an Upland cop and proceeded to confiscate the grenades. No mention was made of the M-1 carbine next to the front seat, he just wanted those grenades. The fireman also confiscated dummy grenades from a vendor at the show.

The cop was actually pretty cool and stated he would have had Frank remove the grenades from plain sight and put them under the seat but the fireman was a jerk and demanded the grenades. We even got the cop to handcuff Frank V. so Frank Mormillo could take a picture which was then put in Pacific Flyer and the look on Frank V's face was priceless.

The next week Frank V. called the Ontario Fire Dept. and raised holy heck. They asked him to come over to the station and when he did the fireman who had confiscated the grenades returned them to Frank V. and made an apology. It turns out the Fire Chief was pissed his boys left the city while on duty with the equipment and went to the airshow and acted like the Gestapo.

I do believe they have since interpeted or changed the law to allow museums or historical displays to have them.

Les

Great story, and one with a good ending. It seems like common sense prevailed - something that often does not happen when far reaching laws with wide scope are put into effect without first considering the wide implications they might have.