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Mystery Bird at Pima - 2004

Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:56 am

I was going through the pics I took at Pima back in the summer of '04, and ran across these. I've always wondered what the heck it is. It was out among the hulks in the back 40..looks like a fuselage section, wearing what might be a very weathered JSDF Hinomaru. Sorry for the quality..I was shooting from the back of a moving (more like low flying) golf cart.

Thanks,

Steve

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Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:41 am

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I understood they had some B-26 Maraulder sections that had been given Japanese markings for movie work? this is a centre mounted wing similar to the Maraulder but I didnt think that fuselage had breaks to remove the top section or cockpit in that form, (it in someway looks a bit like an A-20 hulk? except the second photo gives away the round shape of the fuselage as not being A-20.)

see this WIX thread on the B-26 project at Hill AFB Museum.

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23594&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=b26+maraulder+pima&start=15

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jamesintucson wrote:
mustangdriver wrote:This is a David aircraft. The meatballs were painted on there when it was used in the film "A guy named Joe". I believe the rear fuselage is in Akron with the MAPS Air Museum.



The rear fuselage with the meatballs is at Pima. The camper guy had 2 nose sections. The one at Pima is one of them.

James



regards

Mark Pilkington
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:50 am

I worked on several of the DT airframes. The Japanese art work was from "A Guy named Joe". That looks like the rear fuselage of the B-26.

Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:56 am

Actually the Marauder chunk of which you speak was in the hangar, along with the A-20 fuselage. I believe you're right about the wing mounting on the Marauder..and the wing on this hulk is mounted much too low for a B-26 anyway. It's also too fat to be an A-20. I have to admit, it's got me baffled.

Here are the Marauder sections, and the A-20.

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Re: Mystery Bird at Pima - 2004

Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:33 am

Steve Nelson wrote:I was going through the pics I took at Pima back in the summer of '04, and ran across these. I've always wondered what the heck it is. It was out among the hulks in the back 40..looks like a fuselage section, wearing what might be a very weathered JSDF Hinomaru. Sorry for the quality..I was shooting from the back of a moving (more like low flying) golf cart.

Thanks,

Steve

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It is an SB2A Brewster Buccaneer. Or in this case a Bermuda.

Re: Mystery Bird at Pima - 2004

Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:54 am

Clifford Bossie wrote:
Steve Nelson wrote:I was going through the pics I took at Pima back in the summer of '04, and ran across these. I've always wondered what the heck it is. It was out among the hulks in the back 40..looks like a fuselage section, wearing what might be a very weathered JSDF Hinomaru. Sorry for the quality..I was shooting from the back of a moving (more like low flying) golf cart.

Thanks,

Steve

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It is an SB2A Brewster Buccaneer. Or in this case a Bermuda.



Cliff speaks the truth. Check the link and believe:

http://www.pimaair.org/collection-detail.php?cid=41

This is a DT-/MARC-owned machine. I believe its former home was somewhere in upstate New York (but I'm too old & lazy to confirm!).

Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:10 am

Thanks, guys!

The embarrasing thing is that the answer was literally right in front of me. I shot these pics outside the restoration hangar at NMNA the following summer..it's definately the same type (note the three prominent fasteners below the "turtledeck" on the fuselage.) What I took to be a weathered Hinomaru may actually be a British roundel.

I never even considered an SB2A, because I thought the only surviving bits were the ones at P-cola. I understand that once the example on display was finished, the hulk I photgraphed was scrapped (it had been used as a parts source.) Too bad..I bet the miracle workers at Pima could have scrounged some usable parts off it.

SN

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Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:12 am

I thought that most of the usable stuff was sent to Pima?

Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:50 am

A shot also taken in 2004.
bill word

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Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:21 am

mustangdriver wrote:I thought that most of the usable stuff was sent to Pima?


Fittings, yes.

Centersection, wings, and remaining fuselage & empennage were all scrapped.

:?

Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:01 pm

This is how the airframe looked last April. Not much has changed since 2004.

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There are also parts to a Lysander and a Beaufort in that area.
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