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Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:12 am

i have a b-24 seat from dave t. recovered from india. bought for me by my 1st wife in the late 1980's, the 6th nicest thing she did for me. we had 3 kids, she bought me the b-24 seat, divorced me, & now she leaves me the hell alone!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:21 pm

Didn't Earl Reinert have a Stuka, or most of one at least? His museum was in Mundalene, Illinois, which ties in with the Great Lakes area. Doug Arnold's crew were always extremely tight lipped about they had too, so perhaps it's still stashed away in a hangar somewhere. It's an interesting myth.

Richard

Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:48 pm

RMAllnutt wrote:Didn't Earl Reinert have a Stuka, or most of one at least? His museum was in Mundalene, Illinois, which ties in with the Great Lakes area.
Mundelein. Actually it was closer to Gilmer. Never saw any Stuka parts there in the late '70s/early '80s.

Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:29 pm

went there often and I don't believe he ever had one. The only JU87 in the area is hanging in the museum of science & industry.

Good ol' Earl...

Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:25 pm

Used to hang around there too till I moved west in '81. He never mentioned a Stuka to us; maybe you're thinking of his Hs-129 cockpit section? (Remember the kid from Northbrook with the rusty gold '74 Caddy?...me)

Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:57 pm

I get the impression that there are a couple stukas out there in hiding.

The fly past board is have a time with the topic.

It would be great to see a few more come out into the public eye. I'd love to see a real one grace the skys again.

Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:38 am

Hi Rob,
You have had a dig about in the Midland Counties book on the captured Luftwaffe? Can't recall the title for the moment. It would give you airframes which might fit the type/locatoion/date scenario.
Good luck,

Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:24 am

War Prizes by Phil Butler , probably 'the bible' on captured Axis aircraft and the fates of them. No mention of any going to Arnold, and from what I can see the last remnants of the Luftwaffe machines were scrapped in the late fifties.
Doug was secretive, but did not object to visits by those seriously writing articles and books, and the people working for him certainly knew what he had, doubtful an airframe could remain totally secret for over 40 years.

Dave

Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:01 pm

Back before they had to move it (still in process) to make way for airport expansion, I seem to remember quite a few aircraft parts with German markings hanging from the ceiling at the 100th BG restaurant here in Cleveland,Ohio, along with a partial/mock-up Mustang outside.

Kenn
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