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Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:21 pm
I was just looking at the Lancaster Aviation website
http://www.lancasteraviation.com/aircraft.htm
they are the company that diposes of aircraft for the RCAF and they have a "coming soon" announcement for 45 CT-114 Tutors.
Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:49 pm
Anyone want to surprise me with a cockpit section sitting in my driveway when I wake up ? No?? LOL
Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:11 pm
Was just reading the summary download, 190 built, 52 crashed!
But it looks like they are going to flog off the Snowbirds a/c complete with smoke systems etc.
There are only 4 currently in museums, are these going to go like hot-cakes, or are they considered lemons? I do not know much about them.
Is there going to be any problems regarding export to somewhere like NZ, Austrailia, Europe or the US?
Will we see any flying with civilian operaters anywhere?
Would a aerobatic team (say 4) of ex-Snowbirds a/c go down well on the US or European airshow circuit?
Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:09 am
There's been a Tutor flying with a member of the Cascade Warbirds for 2-3 years. Don't remember his name but Ross Granley's been flying the airplane. Brad'll know the name. We did a formation with it, Crash's TBM and Brian Adam's P-51 with our B-25 at Arlington 2 years ago.
Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:39 am
Bill Lamberton owns the Tutor, he traded his old Vampire (an ex-442 Sq aircraft) back to the Canadian Government / Comox Air Force museum for it.
Brian....
Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:21 pm
John Travolta used to own and fly a Tutor as well... can't recall which one it was, but it was in a civilian paint scheme. I saw it for sale again a couple of years ago. I think the tutor is a great little aircraft, and very aestheticly pleasing too. I should think that they will sell well on the civilian market. Jet Provosts have done well, and the tutor is much more attractive.
Cheers,
Richard
Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:37 pm
I think this has been Coming Soon for quite a while. It was last time I checked and it was years ago. One of the memos was dated 2000, so.
I also understand that the Comox Museum caught heat for the trade of Lamberton's bird. Never hear much more about it, other than the CAF really doesn't want the Tutors to go to civilians. But on the other hand, they did sell some T-birds, so who knows.
The ex-Travolta plane is actually a Teburn, and export version of the Tutor that was used by Malaysia. At least three or four were imported to the U.S. in the 1980s. Lamberton has the only "real" flying Tutor.
I've always thought the Tutor would make the perfect warbird jet. I'd love to get my hands on one, but with only about 200 hours in spam cans, it is probably best that I don't!
Jim
Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:30 pm
Tebuan Jim, Tebuan...
That Tutor is very attractive.
I want one. No, two...
Oh wait, I'd prefer a CF-5D!!!
Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:44 pm
Mike, thanks for the images.
Do you have pictures of the CF-5s?
Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:17 pm
Just out of curiosity... what did Canada replace the Tutor with?
Cheers,
Richard
Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:34 pm
BAe Hawk 100, called CT-155 Hawk!
Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:04 pm
There is one picture of the CF-5's in my webshot album of CFS Mountainview. The aircraft were out of range for my camera. They had their wings removed and were wrapped in Tyvek (house wrap).
Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:53 pm
Bah, that's sad to see them like that...
Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:31 pm
Hello Mike:
On your photopage, I noticed a partially scrapped Avro Arrow. I thought there was nothing left of those planes?
Chris
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