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Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:53 pm
From the Tennessee State Library archives.
General Harry Renee Lee, United Confederate Veterans, views a modern army bomber at the WPA-Municipal Airport, Nashville.
Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:14 pm
Is that a younger Mudge?
Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:35 pm
ouch!!
Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:23 am
That's really cool, thanks for sharing it.
Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:43 am
Dan K wrote:Is that a younger Mudge?
Nope, the picture isn't old enough.
Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:08 am
....and it's not on a tin sheet either. I'll take all 4 aircraft and the 33 Chev Master parked out front.
Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:14 am
Cool pic!
Interesting to think..some 65 years or so separate the bomber (a B-12?) from the the Civil War (or the War of Northern Aggression as that vet would call it.) But some 75 years or so separate the bomber from the present day.
I have a hard time realizing that Vietnam is as far in the past to today's teenagers as WWII was to my generation (I was born in 1964.)
SN
Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:14 am
And soon, WWII will be as far in our past as the US Civil War was to people during WWII. It makes you wonder whether folks in the 1940s viewed the Civil War as ancient history, the way we do now, or whether it was much fresher for them. Bearing in mind that there were still quite a few former slaves still alive in the US in 1945.
August
Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:21 am
k5083 wrote:And soon, WWII will be as far in our past as the US Civil War was to people during WWII. It makes you wonder whether folks in the 1940s viewed the Civil War as ancient history, the way we do now, or whether it was much fresher for them. Bearing in mind that there were still quite a few former slaves still alive in the US in 1945.
August
Good points.
It's still fresh... in some people's minds!
Very neat photo!
Ryan
Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:39 am
k5083 wrote:And soon, WWII will be as far in our past as the US Civil War was to people during WWII. It makes you wonder whether folks in the 1940s viewed the Civil War as ancient history, the way we do now, or whether it was much fresher for them. Bearing in mind that there were still quite a few former slaves still alive in the US in 1945.
August
Interesting; I can remember when the last Civil War vets passed away, and we'll soon go through that with the boys that fought in WWI. And now a lot of Viet Nam vets are starting to resemble "older gentlemen", which just plain makes me...old
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Hal B on Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:58 am
Actually, I find that photo quite touching. General Lee could be thinking, "Man, what we could have done with about a dozen of these. Just think, the U.S. Capitol could have been in Atlanta."
Dan K wrote:Is that a younger Mudge?
Keep it up Dan. I have friends in Manitowoc that could be in Princeton in a couple of hours and I know where you live.
Mudge the geezerly
Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:31 pm
Mudge wrote:Keep it up Dan. I have friends in Manitowoc that could be in Princeton in a couple of hours and I know where you live.
You think I started all this?
And besides, by the time your goons get here Mrs. K and I (and all the little K's) will be displaced cheeseheads. We're off for the land of lutefisk next week. I'll leave some Miller Lite in the fridge just in case company shows up.
Dan the nomadic
Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:06 pm
You taking that flying elephant with you?
Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:49 pm
Obergrafeter wrote:You taking that flying elephant with you?
Mesmerizing, isn't he?
Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:48 pm
k5083 wrote:And soon, WWII will be as far in our past as the US Civil War was to people during WWII. It makes you wonder whether folks in the 1940s viewed the Civil War as ancient history, the way we do now, or whether it was much fresher for them. Bearing in mind that there were still quite a few former slaves still alive in the US in 1945.
August
From memoirs I have read the WW2 GIs were probably a lot closer to the CW than those today are to WW2. General Buckner's (of Buckner Bay) father was a Civil War veteran and many of the younger men had grandfather's who were (my father's granddad was). Then there were cultural symbols as well. I think Vicksburg did not celebrate the 4th of July, (also the anniversary of its surrender in 1863) until sometime during WW2. Then there was not the sensory overload. There were only two full scale wars between the CW and WW2 but between WW2 and now there have been 4 or 5 depending on how you score the current campaigns. As mobile as the country was compared to Europe it was still a lot less mobile in those days so most people grew up in and absorbed aura of their home whereas nowadays some people don't spend enough time in any one place to even appreciate the history let alone be taught any of it in school etc.
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