CASA 2111 Engine question

[Jerry O'Neill]

I was looking at the CASA 2111's and I am wondering if when they made the change to Merlion engines, did they use major portions of Lancaster engine cowlings and installation parts?

It kind of looks like they just took Lanc engine QEC's and bolted them to the CASA's.
I know it's never that easy to change powerplant set-ups, but does anybody know for sure?
Thanks.
Jerry

[Warbird Kid]

I was looking at the CASA 2111's and I am wondering if when they made the change to Merlion engines, did they use major portions of Lancaster engine cowlings and installation parts?

It kind of looks like they just took Lanc engine QEC's and bolted them to the CASA's.
I know it's never that easy to change powerplant set-ups, but does anybody know for sure?
Thanks.
Jerry

I know it doesn't solve anything but, I remember seeing someone somewhere on the internet redo a 1/48 HE-111 into a CASA 2111 using Lancaster engine cowlings.

[51fixer]

I know that Rolls Royce would engineer FWF packages.
I have a Merlin 724 manual as used in the DC-4M in which everything from the engine mounts, radiators, exhausts ect is engineered and built by RR although fitted to a Canadian built Douglas design.
It could be the FWF packages on the Casa and Hispano 109 were similar setups.
Whether they used exact parts from an existing aircraft or not I don't know.
The little I do know of British engineering would tell me they designed and built new stuff that is similar to existing designs as the people designing and building them would draw from work they had already done.
Rich

[mlenoch]

What model RRoyce did the Lancaster have installed?
(Were any of the Lancaster engine's data plates noted as Rolls or Ford-England manufacture?)
VL

[Second Air Force]

What model RRoyce did the Lancaster have installed?
(Were any of the Lancaster engine's data plates noted as Rolls or Ford-England manufacture?)
VL

The B1 originally used Merlin XX. The B3 had Packards.

I was thinking we had a thread on here somewhere a few months ago that spoke of CASA using an adaptation of the Lancaster FWF. Rich's thought about the Rolls Royce engineering being "recycled" makes perfect sense, at least to me.

Scott

[famvburg]

That's a pretty common trick in the modeling world. ISTR a magazine article many years ago making a 1/72 "BoB Heinkel" using that & several years back I built a couple of 1/72 CASAs using an He 111 & Lanc cowls & props. How accurate it truly is, I dunno, but it looks right so it's OK.

I was looking at the CASA 2111's and I am wondering if when they made the change to Merlion engines, did they use major portions of Lancaster engine cowlings and installation parts?

It kind of looks like they just took Lanc engine QEC's and bolted them to the CASA's.
I know it's never that easy to change powerplant set-ups, but does anybody know for sure?
Thanks.
Jerry

I know it doesn't solve anything but, I remember seeing someone somewhere on the internet redo a 1/48 HE-111 into a CASA 2111 using Lancaster engine cowlings.

[dhfan]

It seems likely. The Merlin as fitted to the Lancaster was a complete "power egg" containing everything from the firewall forwards with self-contained cooling and originally used on the Beaufighter II. The cowlings were also designed by Rolls-Royce, by the same chap who in later years designed the Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow.