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Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:54 pm

Hi,

This is my first post to this site. A designer friend is looking for a conversion index or online AP to convert Japanese airfoils i.e. NN-21 to NACA airfoils.

Thanks in advance for your input.
Last edited by FliteMetal on Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Onboard AP

Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:03 pm

Hey Ed,

Lester is actually looking for the coordinates for the NN-12 (not 21) as used on the Ki-43 Oscar. Not sure if there was an NN-21 or not but I'd hate for somebody to go through the effort of getting the information for the wrong airfoil! :)

Welcome to WIX by the way, great place to hang out if your a warbird fan.

Chad Veich

Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:14 pm

Hi Chad,

Good to see someone familiar. Yes, The NN-21 is for the Raden a friend of mine is designing...redesigning as it were. He's wanting to use the NACA which is in the 2200 series...close to but not exactly the same as the 2208. I just realized unless an image is on my server or another url this forum doesn't have an image upload utility.... hummmm :)

Here is the NN-21. I found NN-12 while I was bottom feeding in the China Sea all evening trying to help John... :)
NO, I don't remember where...
Image

Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:58 pm

I faced a similar problem on the Knoll. I had some small cutaway views from magazine advertisements. I imported these .jpgs into Autocad, then traced over the different views of the airfoils with the spline command, using the best average of the different images. I then printed that off on drafting vellum (onion skin). I then sat down and browsed all 1800 or so airfoils at http://www.worldofkrauss.com/foils/list ... er_page=60 . It isn't so hard, you can eliminate most of them with a quick visual by hovering your mouse over the name of the airfoil; it will throw a preview box up. If you are only browsing NACA's all the more easier. I then printed off the best 50 qty of the 1800, sat down and placed the drafting vellum over each of them until I found the perfect match. I was very happy because the match was German (GOE series) and of the correct time period, which fit the airplane's conception perfectly.

Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:46 pm

FliteMetal wrote:Hi Chad,

Good to see someone familiar. Yes, The NN-21 is for the Raden a friend of mine is designing...redesigning as it were.


My mistake Ed. Lester had contacted me about the Ki-43 and I assumed he had contacted you as well.

Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:30 am

Edward Sheetmetalhands wrote:I faced a similar problem on the Knoll. I then sat down and browsed all 1800 or so airfoils at http://www.worldofkrauss.com/foils/list ... er_page=60 . It isn't so hard, you can eliminate most of them with a quick visual by hovering your mouse over the name of the airfoil; it will throw a preview box up.


Edward,

Thanks for the additional resource. In the world of quessing which the plastic kit manufacturers typically exist in its tuff finding validations. I have serveral airfoil software programs and a NASA engineer who gave me a unique AP...However there are very few NN-XX-XX-X NACA indexes.

Ed

Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:34 am

This is a friend of mine from my research days, this guy's father designed the Ki-94. He might be able to get you some drawings. Very nice gentleman in Japan.

DrHASEGAWA@aol.com

http://www.geocities.jp/pinealguy/tatsuo/tatsuo.htm

Airfoil Design:
http://www.geocities.jp/pinealguy/tatsu ... irfoil.jpg
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Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:34 am

C VEICH wrote:
FliteMetal wrote: My mistake Ed. Lester had contacted me about the Ki-43 and I assumed he had contacted you as well.


Chad,

Lester.... I know I should recognize the name Lester... Its not everyday we run into a Lester... :)
I found Ki-43 data references during my search. Teh 43's documented quite well. Back before the Japanese Aviation Resource site sent South about 5 or 6 years ago I had a Ki-43 link and focused article on the Ki-43 in ScaleAero.com.

What is Lester's last name...where is he?

Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:38 am

the330thbg wrote:This is a friend of mine from my research days, this guy's father designed the Ki-94. He might be able to get you some drawings. Very nice gentleman in Japan. DrHASEGAWA@aol.com http://www.geocities.jp/pinealguy/tatsuo/tatsuo.htm
Airfoil Design:
http://www.geocities.jp/pinealguy/tatsu ... irfoil.jpg


330thBG,

Thanks! I will check it out.

Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:24 pm

My friend Shinpachi might have some info,he has done some great CAD work on the Zero...
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/schema ... 714-2.html
http://9015.teacup.com/fm0521nagak/bbs
:drinkers:

Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:42 pm

Thanks!

I hope to find an online application program AP utility which will yield an appropriate NN- airfoil in the NACA numerical identity. Amidst all the conversion tables out there...the NN-X to NACA is hard to find.

Re: Need Japanese Airfoil To NACA Conversion Index Or Online AP

Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:20 pm

The airfoil index and online utility Airfoil Investigation Data... http://www.worldofkrauss.com/foils/list ... er_page=60 turned out to be an excellent alternative to a less friendly one I discovered last year. I forwarded the NN-21 data for use.
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