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Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:40 pm
Well looking at the great photos of the aircraft on display at Randolph AFB, I noted that one was missing. AT-11, marked 24060, which is near the flight line. This aircraft has been a thorn in my side for many years for the following reasons.
1. Was on display at Mather AFB, CA. June 1993 ast 24066

2. In June 1995 noted on flightline at Randolph AFB, TX still as 24066

3 and 4. Later placed up a pole near the flightling, now marked 24060, photos taken in 2003.


To confuse matters even more, Joe Baugher lists this aircraft as 41-9445, however, this aircraft was written off in New Mexico in 1942 due to a crash. Does any one out there have the correct serial number of this bird. Thanks in advance.
All photos by me. John
Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:49 pm
boy there is a delima, unless someone can get inside her and read the data plate, IF one is even there.
Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:45 am
It's an ex USN SNB-1, BuNo 39819.
Andy Marden
USAMOOS
Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:27 am
Thanks Andy, and also thanks to Bob P. from the Beech Society who sent me the detailed history of the aiccrraft:
The Randolph display aircraft is actually an SNB-1 (one of only 7 that were civil reg'd, most were remanufactured to SNB-5 configuration) and I believe has changed identity still once again. In '09 it was photographed wearing 19545 on the rear fuselage and large 805 marks ahead of that and on the cowls. Any questions, additions or corrections welcome, to the history below:
4460 SNB-1 39819 USN accepted 30Dec42 Naval Avn Ordinance Test Station (NAOTS) NAAS Chincoteague. Inyokern Naval Ordinance Test Station Project 20Feb43. Stored Litchfield Park ’49. Accid 17Sep53. Stricken 4Aug55 (transf to non-USN recipient). Bids invited 9May55 by USNAS North Island. On Mark Engineering Co, Los Angeles (later Van Nuys), CA BS 25July55 for $5,803. Reg’d as N1389N & CofA 9Aug55 after civil conversion. Rereg’d 15Jul57 N450M. Large G18S cabin windows (including panorama) installed 6Oct59. Remotely controlled camera mounted in nose 29Apr65. Paul H. Dehaan dba Dehaan Avn BS 3Mar68. James A. Rolfe dba Ro-Med Co, Minneapolis, MN (later Tucson, AZ) BS 3Mar68. Steven J. Morrow & Thomas L. Cannarozzo, Athol, ID BS 13Jan74. Clifford A. & Florice M. Hackney, Athol, ID BS 23Aug74. Back to Morrow & Cannarozzo BS 2Jan78. Dale E. Hackney, Athol, ID BS 27Aug80. Joe R. Taylor, Athol, ID BS 3Mar83. Peter Regina, Van Nuys, CA BS 25May86. Modif by Regina back to AT-11 configuration with small cabin porthole windows, marked 24066 & large 66. Had non-standard clear plex dome in navigation astrodome position. Exchanged with USAF Museum, Dayton, OH BS 25May86. Dept. of the Air Force letter 23Oct86 notes the transaction and that it is already on static display at Mather AFB. Regis canx 26Nov86. Photog at Randolph AFB on pylon May01 now marked 4460 & large 60. As of ’09 still there on pedestal but photog with 19545 and large 805 marks.
Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:49 pm
I learned to fly in this airplane. At 10 years old, I first landed it from the right seat, looking out the glass nose. No brakes on the right side, just T-shaped rudder pedals that you could pull out of the floor. A release on the floor on the left side of the co-pilot's seat allowed the control column to come back into the seat so you could climb past the instrument panel into the front. I laid on that glass nose for SO MANY HOURS!! Result: my hearing has been impaired (tinnitus) for my entire life. Who knew? My Dad, R. O. Denny was the president and one of the founders of On Mark Engineering. I probably have 150 hours as sole manipulator of the controls in this airplane over my late childhood and early teen years. Here is a picture of my Dad and me in the Standard of California A-26 conversion. I was 16 at the time, and could fly this beast on one engine.
THANK YOU FOR THE HISTORY OF THE AIRCRAFT!!
Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:50 pm
Sky Slicer wrote:I learned to fly in this airplane. At 10 years old, I first landed it from the right seat, looking out the glass nose. No brakes on the right side, just T-shaped rudder pedals that you could pull out of the floor. A release on the floor on the left side of the co-pilot's seat allowed the control column to come back into the seat so you could climb past the instrument panel into the front. I laid on that glass nose for SO MANY HOURS!! Result: my hearing has been impaired (tinnitus) for my entire life. Who knew? My Dad, R. O. Denny was the president and one of the founders of On Mark Engineering. I probably have 150 hours as sole manipulator of the controls in this airplane over my late childhood and early teen years. Here is a picture of my Dad and me in the Standard of California A-26 conversion. I was 16 at the time, and could fly this beast on one engine.
THANK YOU FOR THE HISTORY OF THE AIRCRAFT!!

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