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P-47 and F4U radio equipment

Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:22 am

I am afraid there won't be a two-word answer for that, but what can a man do, when he needs to know.

I wish I knew what the radios for the IIWW period of these birds looked like?
What was the reason for such a different configuration of Corsair wiring?
Did Army and Navy used HF radios on every TO less ETO with VHF for the need of communication with British? If not, why the antenna wires appear everywhere else?
Which boxes and antennas served for verbal communication and which were used as IFF system? Any more systems? The Uncle Dog equipment is the only thing that comes in my mind.

A lot of questions, but I will be thankful for any help.
Last edited by greatgonzo on Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:34 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: P-47 and F-4U radio equipment

Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:34 pm

I can answer one... The Corsair's bent wing design was for clearance of the big 13 foot 4 inch prop without having to lengthen the landing gear which was built short and strong for hard carrier landings.

Re: P-47 and F-4U radio equipment

Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:39 pm

Excuse me?!

Edit:
Oh. l see it - wiring, not wing . :)
By different l mean I can bring, just from my memory, at least four antenna wires configurations for llWW Corsairs.

Re: P-47 and F-4U radio equipment

Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:12 pm

Oh wow :oops: Sorry......hehe Maybe I shouldn't answer questions on WIX after just getting home from a 10 hour day at work and already being sleep deprived. lol

Re: P-47 and F-4U radio equipment

Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:20 am

It's "F4U Corsair" NOT F-4U ..!!!!
Come on people get this RIGHT..!!!

Maybe I should start doing P4-7 or P5-1 ..!!!!
:twisted:

Re: P-47 and F4U radio equipment

Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:36 am

My mistake. Corrected.

Re: P-47 and F-4U radio equipment

Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:50 pm

corsairboss wrote:It's "F4U Corsair" NOT F-4U ..!!!!
Come on people get this RIGHT..!!!

Maybe I should start doing P4-7 or P5-1 ..!!!!
:twisted:


It's a simple mistake. Relax :roll:

Re: P-47 and F4U radio equipment

Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:15 pm

In typical WIX fashion, no one has actually attempted to answer the gentleman's original question. I guess I'll take a stab at it.

Army aircraft were usually equipped with some version of the SCR-274N "command" radio equipment, which operated in the 3.0 to 9.1 MHz range (individual transmitter units covered 3.0 - 4.0, 4.0 - 5.3, 5.3 - 7.0, 7.0 - 9.1 mc, and individual receiver units covered 3.0 - 6.0 and 6.0 - 9.1 mc, as well as a 190 - 550 kc unit for beacon reception).

Navy aircraft were usually equipped with some version of either the ATA or AN/ARC5 "command" radio equipment, which operated in the 2.1 to 9.1 MHz range (individual transmitter units covered 2.1 - 3.0, 3.0 - 4.0, 4.0 - 5.3, 5.3 - 7.0, 7.0 - 9.1 mc, and individual receiver units covered 0.5 - 1.5, 1.5 - 3.0, 3.0 - 6.0, and 6.0 - 9.1 mc, as well as a 190 - 550 kc unit for beacon reception). ATA was an earlier set, and AN/ARC5 came later. Both were used throughout WW2.

In both the Army and Navy applications, "command" sets were used to communicate with the control tower while on the ground or in the pattern, and were used to communicate between aircraft while in flight. Being HF units, wire antennas were the order of the day. Large aircraft were usually equipped for multiple bands, while smaller aircraft might only be equipped for one band. In most cases, the transmitter, modulator, and receiver unit(s) were mounted remotely with local control units installed in the cockpit and/or radio operator's station.

All of the above radios are often referred to by restorers and ham radio operators as "Arc Fives", but that moniker is only correct for the Navy's AN/ARC5 units. Though the Army and Navy radios look almost identical and cover very similar frequency ranges, they are not interchangeable because of differences in connectorization. There are also minor differences in the internal circuitry, especially in the transmitters. The Navy ATA and AN/ARC5 components are also not directly interchangeable, also because of differences in connectorization.

Later in the war, the Army adopted the British-developed VHF radios for "command" purposes. VHF worked better for short-range communications and the radio waves don't tend to travel long distances like HF signals do.

Plenty of information is available on the internet (Google is your friend!). Now that you know what to look for, you can overdose on radio info! :shock:

Re: P-47 and F4U radio equipment

Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:22 pm

Thanks a lot. I have nothing against Google, yet it is much easier with Your additional information. I know, I have tried before :).
To tell the truth I hoped for some info from corsairboss after I have corrected my misspell. His nick, designation and all. I am not trying to be ironic. Still hope for it.
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