Old Cars & Old Planes Pt 2

[Mark Allen M]

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[JohnB]

The car in the first photo with the Hunter is a 30s Alfa Romeo...I think it's an 8C.
If so, it's worth millions today.

In photo 8, it looks to be a 1952 Buick Special Riviera hardtop coupe with the Pan Am Stratocruiser.

In photo 9, I think it's a 1942 Chevrolet Douglas staff car with the XB-42.

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[mike furline]

Photo #1 - Blue airplane, Red car.
Photo #5 - Silver airplane, Red car.
Photo #6 - Silver/Blue airplane, Red/White car.

The black & white pictures have me stumped.

[Jesse C.]

[Mark Allen M]

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[The Inspector]

The wide open BUICK probably had the same thing happen to it as a new FORD ECONOLINE van did @ Arlington (KAWI) during the first EAA fly in where a landing DC-6 smacked the van with it's main gear.
The SMIRNOFF Top Fueler was Grenameyers car and the engines were built and tuned by Dave Zeuchell. Darryls best times were mid 7.70's which were right in the groove in the mid 60's for T/F. The car is parked in front of his YIPPEE P-38 clone during a cover photo shoot for DRAG RACING magazine in 1967. After the '67 season the car was repanted metalic blue as it's pearl paint had yellowed and SMIRNOFF had moved on. After being eliminated in competetion @ the 68 WINTERNATIONALS, the car disappeared from sight until it showed up @ the California 1000 @ Mojave where it did a match race with the Warren-Coburn-Miller T/F car (on the trailer, that's the way even top drawer teams like W-C-M toured). The car was put in a building somewhere in the Mojave area for 37 years. When the new owner found it in 2006, the parachute was still wadded up and stuffed in the seat like it had just finished a pass. It's been completely restored and is now part of the CACKLEFEST tour of old restored Fuelers (http://www.cacklefest.com). The shot with Clay Lacey in the DC-7 is the SMIRNOFF car on it's last pass ever and shows the last paint job off.
The 377 Clipper appears to be named in the picture but another source lists no given name for N 90944 delivered in 1949 l/n 15960 B-377-10-29 it was lost over the Pacific enroute to HNL in 1957

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[TROJANII]

Photo #5 - The car looks like a Volvo PV444.

[Mark Allen M]

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[Chappie]

Great shot of the dragster and Super Snoopy. I don't know much about the airplane other than it flew in the 1970 California 1000, but everytime to do see something about it is being flown hard!

Isn't there a shot out there of Amelia Earhart, the Electra, and her Cord?



Chappie

[The Inspector]

The FORD Pick Up is either a '46 or '47 the grill didn't change and the 48-52 were an all new design.

Photo #3 is the Sud Ouest (SNCASO) SC-6000 TRITON trainer design of which actually started on the down low in 1943 while the Nasti's were still camping out in Fwance. Originally powered by a JUMO 004 (NO!! REALLY!?!) then a R/R NENE. No idea on the car other than for it's time it's pretty advanced with a big wrap around windshield when everyone else was still using two separate panes for windshields, pretty aero too.

Wish I could read the FLAGSHIP name on the DC-2.

The PV-444 was the first modern design for VOLVO post war & led to the PV-544. A 544 with a small V-6 and some massaging makes a pretty cool half scale street rod that looks like a '46-'48 FORD TUDOR.

No idea yet on the Burgundy/White car in front of the CONNIE, but suspect it's some sort of OPEL show car because it's mama had the heck scared out of it by a 53 CHEVY.

The Boeing 247 with the Dale Chihuly glass sculpture props is/was l/n 1723, converted to a 247D (as shown) then became a C-73 4268853, then back to a 247D registered as XA-DUY, the car is a very custom bodied maybe BMW?

The BUICK is a '54 (wrap around one piece windshield)

The DOUGLAS CHEVY looks like a '46 AERO coupe.

The two Afrika Corps guys appear to be leaning on a LaSalle given the fender mounts and the grill isn't BUICK, CHEVY. OLDS, or PONTIAC but it's definately American, in Egypt maybe?

The saloon the P-51 guy is resting his foot on is either a SINGER or HUMBER I think.

[JohnB]

The BUICK is a '54 (wrap around one piece windshield)

Strongly disagree.
The 54's wrap around windshield had a reverse (forward) slant "A-Pillar" and the egg shaped headlight trim. This car has neither.
While the car pictured as a one piece windshield, it's not a "wrap aropund" in the common use of the term.
Compare it to 54- 58 Buicks...on those the leading edge of the door is ahead of the "A-pillar".
This car's door leading edge is in line with the bottom of the pillar, not ahead of it.


See a 52 here....
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1950-1952 ... master.htm

However, it might just be a Riveria, not a "Special Riveria".

The DOUGLAS CHEVY looks like a '46 AERO coupe.

I'll also disagree about your contention that the Douglas Chevy is a 46 and not a 42.
The 42 had more grille bars than the 46.

See here:
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=1942+che ... ,s:0,i:101

The 46 only had three bars in the main grille and more importantly, wrap around front turn signals below the grille bar...which the Douglas car does not have.
Here's a 46:
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=1946+che ... ,s:0,i:135

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[The Inspector]

The BUICK is a '53 my bust, the Chevy it's hard to tell as there were different trim levels for specific body styles from el cheapo to full boat and I'm not really positive where the AERO body fell in the lineup and what it's trim levels might have been and I find pictures in GOOGLE of 42's and '46's that the grill tooth count varies from three to more teeth than Bert Parks had.

[SaxMan]

What is the story behind the flattened Buick? I don't think they had Monster Trucks in '44

[The Inspector]

What is the story behind the flattened Buick? I don't think they had Monster Trucks in '44

I see a steam roller in the left margin of the photo

[Mark Allen M]

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