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(Update) LIFE's look @ Early & Later Carrier Ops

Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:23 am

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Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:41 am

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Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:09 pm

Since all the aircraft are in cammo and all the photos are 'jiggled' I would suspect that the contact prints were 'nudged' a bit in the solution so no one could get a clear image of indivual BUARNO's (all veddy hush-hush dontchaknow) or pilots faces in the Ready Room probably at the beheist of a navy censor.
Anyone care to speculate on what the purpose was for what looks like an Inclineometer on the wing of that SBD towards the end of this installment?

Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:18 pm

Those are excellent photos Mark; thanks for posting them. I love the photos of the Kingfishers landing at the end of the series. Slack water at the bottom of the photo, from the cruiser or battleship that's receiving the planes having just done a hard turn to starboard to provide a slack area for the birds to land in...you can see the rough seas at the top of the photos. And someone has tossed out a smoke bomb to give pilot a sense of the wind strength and direction. Very cool!

As to the inclinometer...never seen that before. Maybe so the pilot can look out and see dive angle...perhaps a temporary addition for training? Or maybe a dive flap angle indicator? Not sure.

--Tom

Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:06 pm

I recall an incident told in the late Scott Crossfields autobiography about instructing in SBD's during the war and one particular backseater who insisted on calling out altitude during dive bombing using the installed altimeter in the back. Crossfield purposely really hauled back on a dive recovery, only to hear this guy groggily calling out altitude as they climbed out :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:58 pm

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Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:09 pm

These B/W shots were taken by Peter Stackpole around September/October 1941, and are an absolute treasure trove of historical information... us modelers have been drooling over these since we bumped into them back in Dec 2008 when Google first put LIFE's archives online.

The well-known color set of Air Wing Six was shot by Carl Mydans in August 1940. You can find an awful lot of good stuff by searching for the photographer's name... for instance, "frank scherschel source:life" brings up this gorgeous pic, part of a series shot by Frank aboard BB-55 North Carolina in early 1942 on an Atlantic convoy patrol.

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Happy hunting, folks! :)

Lynn

Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:11 pm

I can't leave you guys hangin'... I have to show you this one, easily one of my favorite shots in the whole LIFE archive. The timing on this shot is fantastic, considering the equipment he was working with. :)


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Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:31 am

Kingfisher 4-0-8 in the third b/w pic prior to the color set is named to USS MARYLAND...BB 46.

Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:59 am

Pathfinder wrote:Kingfisher 4-0-8 in the third b/w pic prior to the color set is named to USS MARYLAND...BB 46.

Thats a good eye Pathfinder.

Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:35 pm

Excellent thread and thanks for posting many pics I had never seen before.

THIS is why I keep coming back and what makes WIX worthwile

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Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:47 pm

My pleasure to help contribute a small part around here :wink:

Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:04 am

If the ship is making good steam, that would be quite a crosswind to launch into from behind the "calm" of the ship! I never thought about that until I saw these outstanding images.

Crosswinds

Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:02 am

I spoke with an observer who flew in an SOC-3 Seagull (I would love to do a rebuild/replica of a Curtiss Seagull!). The catapult was launched with a 5 inch shell specifically configured to launch the trolley with the aircraft at full take-off power. I don't think cross wind was a component in the take-off.

Chop on landing was a component. For recovery, the ship which the aircraft was assigned to did a maneuver (if possible due to war conditions) which basically was full right or left rudder pushing the stern into the wind. The move made a 'slick' which was free of waves for a few minutes so the aircraft could land easier. One of the Kingfisher photos shows this.

BTW, thanks so much for posting these.

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Re: LIFE's look @ Early Carrier Ops

Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:37 am

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