Copperstate EAA Fly-In 2012 Casa Grande AZ

[bilwor]

North American NA-64 Yale N64FL

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[bilwor]

Consolidated Vultee BT-13A Valiant/Vibrator 41-22410 N2808

[Mike]

.........Yale became the only production military airplane to have served in squadron strength on both sides of the war.

Vichy French?
Italian AF?

[bilwor]

RCAF
Luftwaffe

[Mike]

Yes, I understood that about the Yale.

But what about the Vichy French squadrons, who fought against the Allies using the same aircraft that had originally fought against the Germans? Or the Italian Air Force, who changed sides part way through the war?

[Mike]

DC-3s served with Japan throughout the war.

[rcaf_100]

.........Yale became the only production military airplane to have served in squadron strength on both sides of the war.

Vichy French?
Italian AF?

Mostly Luftwaffe, but I have seen a photo or two of Vichy French NA-64's in North Africa.
As far as I know no NA-64's served with the Regia Aeronautica in Italy.

[Mike]

Guys, I'm not talking about North American trainers, I'm simply refuting Bill's erroneous claim that the Yale was the only type to serve in squadron strength on both sides during WWII. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples than those I've quoted.

[Mike]

Double post

[rcaf_100]

Guys, I'm not talking about North American trainers, I'm simply refuting Bill's erroneous claim that the Yale was the only type to serve in squadron strength on both sides during WWII. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples than those I've quoted.

I think Bill was only quoting this website: http://www.thetexasairmuseum.org/aircra ... aft/NA-64/

And the only other examples I can think of are the Blenheims and Buffaloes used by Finland against the Soviets, as well as the 22 DC-3's used by the Japanese alongside their L2D's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showa/Nakajima_L2D

[Mike]

Hawk 75s were used by the French against the Germans, then by the Vichy against US Wildcats. Various other types which had also been used to fight the Germans were later used in combat by Vichy squadrons against the Allies.

[bilwor]

Guys I will change my post. It was for everybody's enjoyment and not for controversy. If that does not satisfy everybody I will delete my post.
bill word

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[shrike]

Guys I will change my post. It was for everybody's enjoyment and not for controversy. If that does not satisfy everybody I will delete my post.
bill wore

Not at all. In fact, thank you for clarifying the scheme. I saw the airplane there and I have to admit that i dismissed the paint as either a movie makeover, or an airshow special (like the T-34's mentioned in another thread).

Rather than create controversy, this is just an opportunity for the trivia hounds to trot out some tidbits in conversation. As a self-identifying trivia hound, I'll throw out the He 115 - operated both by the Luftwaffe and RAF (ex Norway)- although 'squadron service' may be a stretch given the small numbers on both sides and the role as solo patrol aircraft.

[bilwor]

[Dan Jones]

Is it me, or is that Yale packing a -985 in a BT-13 cowling?