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Spitfires ...

Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:31 pm

Source, San Diego Air and Space Museum archives, MNUSAF photo archives. Library of Congress photo archives.

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Supermarine Spitfire USAAF

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Supermarine Spitfire PRXIX

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Supermarine Spitfire PRIX USAAF

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Supermarine Spitfire PRIX USAAF

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Supermarine Spitfire MkXI681 Photo Reconnaissance India 1945

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Supermarine Spitfire England1944

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Supermarine Spitfire MkXI USAAF Oxfordshire 1944

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Supermarine Spitfire MkVb USAAF

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Supermarine Spitfire MkVb USAAF

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Supermarine Spitfire MkIX Danish Air Force

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Supermarine Spitfire MkIX RAF 129 Sqn 1943 (image flipped)

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Supermarine Spitfire MkVb RCAF

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Supermarine Spitfire MkVb USAAF in the markings of 309th Fighter Squadron

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Supermarine Spitfire MkV

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Supermarine Spitfire MkV USAAF

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Supermarine Spitfire fighters for the Soviet Air Force Iran 1943

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Supermarine Seafire XV Naval Museum of Manitoba

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Re: Spitfires ...

Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:53 pm

More informed spitfire folks here on WIX may help out with ID's on some of these images.

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Supermarine Seafire fitted with RATOG Rocket Assisted Take Off Gear

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RATOG Rocket Assisted Take Off Gear

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former Dutch 322 Sqn in RAF service

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Re: Spitfires ...

Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:15 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:
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Looks like a field of FRXVIIIs.
To think only 2 off this type are currently flyable.
JDK or anyone, where was this taken?

Re: Spitfires ...

Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:18 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:Source, San Diego Air and Space Museum archives, MNUSAF photo archives. Library of Congress photo archives.

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Supermarine Spitfire PRIX USAAF



PL965 is a PR Mk.XI, not a PR Mk.IX and it's still very much alive http://www.hangar11.co.uk/spitfire.html

I'm puzzled by the original photo because I wasn't aware that PL965 had served with the USAAF.

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Hangar 11 Supermarine Spitfire PR.XI PL965 by shuttleworthpix, on Flickr

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Hangar 11 Supermarine Spitfire PR.XI PL965 by shuttleworthpix, on Flickr

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Shuttleworth Collection Military Pageant 05/08/2012_3180 by shuttleworthpix, on Flickr

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Sywell Airshow 2012_5337 by shuttleworthpix, on Flickr

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Shuttleworth Collection Military Pageant 05/08/2012_3170 by shuttleworthpix, on Flickr
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Re: Spitfires ...

Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:22 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:Source, San Diego Air and Space Museum archives, MNUSAF photo archives. Library of Congress photo archives.

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Supermarine Spitfire MkV

From the fighter pen built right on the cliff edge in the background that photo can only have been taken at the SW corner of RAF Perranporth, Cornwall, so the obscured serial of FU-Z in this case would appear to be Mk.Vb EP605 of 453 Squadron.

All the best,
PB

Re: Spitfires ...

Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:16 pm

I have a question that I don't believe I've ever seen answered, what exactly was the purpose of the oval plexiglass panel on the left outside of the early sliding canopies particularly since it had at least 4 bolts holding it on? :?

Re: Spitfires ...

Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:19 pm

Robbo wrote:
Mark Allen M wrote:Source, San Diego Air and Space Museum archives, MNUSAF photo archives. Library of Congress photo archives.

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Supermarine Spitfire PRIX USAAF



PL965 is a PR Mk.XI, not a PR Mk.IX and it's still very much alive http://www.hangar11.co.uk/spitfire.html

I'm puzzled by the original photo because I wasn't aware that PL965 had served with the USAAF.

My guess would be Mark Hanna in the cockpit, circa 1993 timeframe. It wore this scheme when first restored at Rochester.

Re: Spitfires ...

Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:31 am

51fixer wrote:Looks like a field of FRXVIIIs.
To think only 2 off this type are currently flyable.
JDK or anyone, where was this taken?

Not my field, Rich, but it's Kai Tak, Hong Kong, I think:

http://images.google.com/hosted/life/d4 ... 95fbf.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Tak_Airport

Regards,

Re: Spitfires ...

Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:52 pm

I think the Hong Kong airfield is more likely to be Sek Kong, which is inland and has high ground nearby.

Its last use by the RAF was as a helicopter base, until the return to Chinese rule.

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Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:30 pm

They are cracking images, Mark; thanks for posting them. That shot of JK101 is a real classic!

It's always fascinating for me to see images of the aircraft in the field, showing what they really looked like. The variation in markings and colours should be a real education for those who like to micro-analyse Spitfire colour schemes, there may have been an official factory standard but out there on the squadrons, almost anything could occur.

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Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:50 pm

The Inspector wrote:I have a question that I don't believe I've ever seen answered, what exactly was the purpose of the oval plexiglass panel on the left outside of the early sliding canopies particularly since it had at least 4 bolts holding it on? :?

As far as I can ascertain it is a knock out panel for clear vision,if that helps.

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Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:25 pm

Spitfire PR.XI did not serve with the USAAF - but the owner at the time of its restoration in 1992 decided to have it painted in USAAF colors. The later colour shots show PL965 as she flies today, in her original 16 Squadron (2nd TAF) colors when based in Belgium, Spring 1945.

Mike, yes that would be Mark in the cockpit.

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Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:54 pm

Some really great images here. Thanks again Mark for making the effort to assemble and post these.

Hey Rich. Do you (or anyone I guess) know how to tell a Mk XVIII from a low back Mk XIV at a glance? (5 bladed Griffon spits look bada$$!!)
The four bladed Griffon Spit (Mk XII) and the Canadian Seafire XV's look pretty cool too. I have yet to see an unatractive Spitfire/Seafire. Even the brutish MK47 :D

Inspector, I agreee about the clear vision knock out panel. I guess they got discontinued early on for not being particularly relevant.

I also like the observation about markings in the field. I'm sure if you asked the guys in the trench what they did or used, they'd say something like. "We used what we had" Factory delivery specs be darned.

Yay Spitfires!!!! :spit :spit :spit

Andy Scott

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Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:34 pm

Sopwith wrote:
The Inspector wrote:I have a question that I don't believe I've ever seen answered, what exactly was the purpose of the oval plexiglass panel on the left outside of the early sliding canopies particularly since it had at least 4 bolts holding it on? :?

As far as I can ascertain it is a knock out panel for clear vision,if that helps.

That'll work! Beats my guess that it was for the driveup lane at the bank THANX :drink3:

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Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:45 pm

Mark V wrote:Spitfire PR.XI did not serve with the USAAF - but the owner at the time of its restoration in 1992 decided to have it painted in USAAF colors. The later colour shots show PL965 as she flies today, in her original 16 Squadron (2nd TAF) colors when based in Belgium, Spring 1945.

Mike, yes that would be Mark in the cockpit.


Steve, that's why it threw me. At the time I was more absorbed with Skipton Birds than Warbairds. I'm surprised that this photo appeared in an archive with wartime images. There are some great photos, thanks to Mark for sharing them.
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