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derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:53 pm

Looking to see if there are any derelict UH-19 or UH-34 in the U.S.? Just curious doing a small list of derelict aircraft still around.

Thanks,
Nate

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:27 pm

The best place for H-34s was in Tucson near D-M, but they scrapped the lot of them a year or so ago.
There were dozens of H-19s at Chandler Memorial Field (not the other Chandler airport) south of Phoenix. I understand they were moved to Casa Grande.
Hope springs eternal for the S-55 turbine conversion program that was offered 10-15 years ago, so someone took the trouble to move them..

If you go onto the FAA database and check the type, you'll see clusters of them held by operators as spares for parts or potential turbine conversions.
Until recently, a operator in Brewster, Washington was using H-19s to dry cherries. He lost 3 in a couple of years (one fatal when it hit a power line) so I don't know if he has any airworthy examples remaining.

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:57 pm

The vast majority of the 100 plus H-34 airframes in Tucson - including some in-country Vietnam vets - were indeed scrapped more than two years ago and the scrap metal sold to...wait for it...Vietnam.

The 75, H-19 airframes held in reserve by Washington state based Whisper-Jet are indeed stored in Casa Grande, AZ. though the liklihood of any further S-55QT conversions seems slim.

Golden Wings Aviation in Brewster owns at least 10, H-19's for their cherry-drying operation with probably around 7 or 8 of those being airworthy but, with more on the way.

As far as derelicts of both types, yes, several of each at various locations around the U.S. My site page here: http://www.hrs-helicopter.com/index_010.htm covers former USMC, HRS's. As to others, perhaps Sid (SIDSIKO) will chime in.

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:18 pm

If anybody knows of a flying H-34 for sale, I would be interested to hear about it.

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:05 pm

Brad wrote:If anybody knows of a flying H-34 for sale, I would be interested to hear about it.


One was just donated to a museum...I don't know if they tried to sell it beforehand.

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:42 am

Brad wrote:If anybody knows of a flying H-34 for sale, I would be interested to hear about it.

There's a turbine one listed in a recent (if not the latest) issue of the Controller. Should be able to pick up a copy at your nearest fancy FBO.

-Tim

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:10 am

There are always turbine (PT-6 TwinPacs) S-58s for sale in Trade-A-Plane, the trouble is with the expensive engine conversion, they're too expensive to be kept as toys.
Still for static, I'd bet you could get a retired turbine-modified airframe and put on original engine doors and have a stock looking H-34.

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:10 pm

Hi Brad,

There are about 5 or 6 airworthy S-58's up at Brewster, WA owned by Versatile Investments, used for Cherry drying. Sadly, the owner died in a non aviation related accident last year, so the future of the fleet is uncertain at the moment.

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:33 pm

Would it be too OT to inquire as to the workings of cherry-drying ops with a big Sikorsky wind whacker - I'm getting curious now? As a Texan I know nothing about cherries except that grocery stores and DQ produce them.

EDIT: Well by golly, good old Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWHP9cDqrao But why do they need to be dried? Oh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQnqFiY2G5Y

Dang, amazing the things you learn around here. :wink:

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:23 pm

The main point as I understand it regarding Sikorskys is you CAN TRY to dry them with a Robinson....but with limited rotor wash and the small area under the rotor disk, it would be like trying to dry your car with your wife's hair drier.

The larger helicopters can do it much better in less time. And a Sikorsky costs less to buy than a R-22/44.

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:12 pm

The Sikorsky S-55 and S-58 make ideal Cherry driers, so I'm told, due to the fact that the rotors turn slower than other turbine types and thus move the rain water off the crop with less force, keeping more of the crop on the trees. If moisture is still on the crop when the sun comes out, there is a chance of cherries drying out and the skins cracking, that's why they fly the orchards and get rid of the rainwater before any damage is done.

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:45 am

Vietnam - Abandoned Sikorsky H-34
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/560416747352799428/

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:42 pm

That is an S-55/H-19, not an H-34.

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:05 pm

Worse than that! It's a Westland Whirlwind (UK licensed built S-55) and is in the former Yugoslavia, certainly not Vietnam

Re: derelict Uh-19 and UH-34's

Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:59 pm

Ha Ha! I didn't look that closely!!!
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