Lost C-45 found?
Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:53 pm
Anyone heard of this? I read this on the www.FineScale.com forum.
Brian44 wrote:
I just heard on Good Morning America that hikers in the Sequoia National Forest found what appears to be a Lockheed C-45 missing since WWII, in a glacier with the pilot's remains still inside. Will be watching for more info on this as it becomes available.
Brian
I'll keep my ear to the ground
Shay
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Brian44 wrote:
I just heard on Good Morning America that hikers in the Sequoia National Forest found what appears to be a Lockheed C-45 missing since WWII, in a glacier with the pilot's remains still inside. Will be watching for more info on this as it becomes available.
Brian
I'll keep my ear to the ground
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Re: Lost C-45 found?
Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:16 pm
Shay wrote:Lockheed C-45
Did the news reports actually say "Lockheed C-45"?
Mike
Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:48 pm
Off the same site. Not the plane but the preserved body trapped in ice.
Dan
FRESNO, Calif. (AP) - Park rangers were working with military officials Wednesday in a remote Sierra Nevada glacier to excavate a body believed to be that of an airman who crashed in 1942.
Two unidentified climbers spotted the frozen head, shoulder and arm of body that is 80 percent encased in ice while climbing the glacier on the 13,710-foot Mount Mendel in Kings Canyon National Park, said park spokeswoman Alex Picavet.
A crew of park rangers and specialists will camp on the mountain side, in below-freezing temperatures, for what promises to be long, difficult excavation, Picavet said. The crew includes an expert from the Joint Prisoner of War Accounting Command, which recovers and identifies military personnel who have been missing for decades.
"We're not going to go fast," Picavet said. "We want to preserve him as much as possible. He's pretty intact."
Park officials believe the serviceman, who is wearing a U.S. Army Corps parachute, may be part of the crew of an AT-7 navigational training plane that crashed on Nov. 18, 1942. The wreckage and four bodies were found in 1947 by a climber. This man may have been connected to that expedition, although it's hard to tell until the body's been recovered, Picavet said.
The body was found at the base of the glacier, in a remote, icy area that can be reached only after days of hiking, Picavet said.
Military officials said they've handled cases like this before, recovering bodies of U.S. airmen from extremely remote locations like a Tibetan glacier.
Once the body is identified, and confirmed to be that of a U.S. military serviceman, it would be flown to the family, who could then choose to bury the deceased with full military honors at the government's expense, said Larry Greer, spokesman for the Pentagon's POW-MIA office
Dan
FRESNO, Calif. (AP) - Park rangers were working with military officials Wednesday in a remote Sierra Nevada glacier to excavate a body believed to be that of an airman who crashed in 1942.
Two unidentified climbers spotted the frozen head, shoulder and arm of body that is 80 percent encased in ice while climbing the glacier on the 13,710-foot Mount Mendel in Kings Canyon National Park, said park spokeswoman Alex Picavet.
A crew of park rangers and specialists will camp on the mountain side, in below-freezing temperatures, for what promises to be long, difficult excavation, Picavet said. The crew includes an expert from the Joint Prisoner of War Accounting Command, which recovers and identifies military personnel who have been missing for decades.
"We're not going to go fast," Picavet said. "We want to preserve him as much as possible. He's pretty intact."
Park officials believe the serviceman, who is wearing a U.S. Army Corps parachute, may be part of the crew of an AT-7 navigational training plane that crashed on Nov. 18, 1942. The wreckage and four bodies were found in 1947 by a climber. This man may have been connected to that expedition, although it's hard to tell until the body's been recovered, Picavet said.
The body was found at the base of the glacier, in a remote, icy area that can be reached only after days of hiking, Picavet said.
Military officials said they've handled cases like this before, recovering bodies of U.S. airmen from extremely remote locations like a Tibetan glacier.
Once the body is identified, and confirmed to be that of a U.S. military serviceman, it would be flown to the family, who could then choose to bury the deceased with full military honors at the government's expense, said Larry Greer, spokesman for the Pentagon's POW-MIA office
Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:55 pm
Check out the Fresno, CA news websites for the info.
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?secti ... id=3549625
Its basicly what Dan posted, but with a picture of a mountain and an a/c.
Edit
They better get a move on because the snow in that area is coming very soon!
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?secti ... id=3549625
Its basicly what Dan posted, but with a picture of a mountain and an a/c.
Edit
They better get a move on because the snow in that area is coming very soon!
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:04 am
So is the AT-7 a trainer variant of the C-45?
As far as wreck sites that may still be out there, here's your answer from an abc news article:
Of course they're on federal land
Oh Rob?
regards,
t~
As far as wreck sites that may still be out there, here's your answer from an abc news article:
The crash is believed to be one of many that happened in the Sierras during the 1940's and 1950's.
Of course they're on federal land
Oh Rob?
regards,
t~
Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:35 am
Here is the AT-7 described from a pretty good source.
The news media is obviously getting confused with the Beech 18 that Amelia was flying when she was lost.
The news media is obviously getting confused with the Beech 18 that Amelia was flying when she was lost.
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:19 pm
Eric Friedebach wrote:The news media is obviously getting confused with the Beech 18 that Amelia was flying when she was lost.
...Lockheed Electra?
Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:51 pm
Here's the CBS report. It shows an AT-7 as possibly the ACFT in question.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/ ... 7473.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/ ... 7473.shtml
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:05 am
Hi All,
The aircraft in question was a Beech AT-7, serial number 41-21079, stationed at Mather Field -AAF-, California.
Four crew members of five were found in 1947. Name of pilot, Gamber, William A., other names unknown.
Saludos,
Amado
The aircraft in question was a Beech AT-7, serial number 41-21079, stationed at Mather Field -AAF-, California.
Four crew members of five were found in 1947. Name of pilot, Gamber, William A., other names unknown.
Saludos,
Amado
Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:40 pm
airnutz wrote:Eric Friedebach wrote:The news media is obviously getting confused with the Beech 18 that Amelia was flying when she was lost.
...Lockheed Electra?
Well, if you believe the TV movie starring Eddie Van Halen’s wife. Or was that one about Pancho. Did Pancho look like Eddie’s wife?
Back OT –
I would swear that some of the pictures being posted by the media are the C-45H at AFM, if not just your average H.
Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:15 pm
If Pancho Barnes looked like Valerie Bertinelli AKA the Former Misses Van Halen, I'd marry her today! 
Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:27 pm
Eeeeeeewwww! Didn't she pass away some years ago?Don Martin wrote:If Pancho Barnes looked like Valerie Bertinelli AKA the Former Misses Van Halen, I'd marry her today!
Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:53 am
Florence Lowe "Pancho" Barnes (1901-1975)
Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:29 pm
pancho looked like a boxer hound!! but she could out fly, out drink, out f*** any guy any day of the week. she has my respect!!
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:19 am
I've seen pictures of "Pancho".Ya ever wonder why was a woman called "Pancho?"It aint cause she looked reel purdy,Trust me.