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Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:28 pm
I ran across an unusual Caution statement in this F-100 manual


I also read Detail & Scale Vol 17 on the F11F Tiger by Bert Kinzey last week. It says that "on Septmber 21, 1956, Grumman test pilot Tom Attridge shot himself down by flying into the shells that he had fired only moments before."
I believe that this also happened with an F-104 at least once with a Vulcan cannon. I think that I'll stick with dropping fire retardant at 130 knots.
Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:06 pm
Good find, I imagine they don't need to put that in the A-10 manual
Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:19 pm
I forget which aircraft it happened to (maybe the F-100), but in the 1950's they were doing a high speed dive and fired the guns. They ended up outrunning the rounds and basically shot themself down.
Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:50 am
I remember that to, I think it was a F9F and I also think it happened to a plane out of Navy Glenview.
Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:20 am
sandiego89 wrote:Good find, I imagine they don't need to put that in the A-10 manual

No need to worry about catching up with its own rounds, but I've heard that too long a burst, will choke out the engines with gun smoke
Andy
Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:30 pm
maxum96 wrote:I forget which aircraft it happened to (maybe the F-100), but in the 1950's they were doing a high speed dive and fired the guns. They ended up outrunning the rounds and basically shot themself down.
Stoney wrote:I remember that to, I think it was a F9F and I also think it happened to a plane out of Navy Glenview.
It was an
F-11F-1 in 1956.
Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:54 pm
DH82EH wrote:sandiego89 wrote:Good find, I imagine they don't need to put that in the A-10 manual

No need to worry about catching up with its own rounds, but I've heard that too long a burst, will choke out the engines with gun smoke
Andy
The ejection video they showed us in Life Support Tech School, showed an A-10 firing the gun, then a few seconds later there is an ejection from the AC.
I believe the A-10 incident starts around the 12 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W_-jRgkSX0
Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:58 pm
This one (the previous link has a typo in the BuNo):
Forgotten Jets wrote:F11F-1 (F-11A) 138620 *9/21/1956: Flew into its own ordnance trajectory during a test firing of its 20 mm cannons (overtook shells during high-speed descent). Crash landed at Calverton APT, NY.

Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:37 pm
maxum96 wrote:I forget which aircraft it happened to (maybe the F-100), but in the 1950's they were doing a high speed dive and fired the guns. They ended up outrunning the rounds and basically shot themself down.
F11F I thought?
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