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Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:55 pm

Recently, I have been making an effort to improve the survivor/aircraft on display sections/pages of aircraft on Wikipedia. For example, I just finished the survivors section on the Mitsubishi A6M Zero article. (c.f. My previous post on H-1s as well.) I figured I would post some of the results here in case anyone had any suggestions.

Before & Afters

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:30 am

You can add a Ki-43 ( under restoration by Harada in Japan).

The Texas Airplane Factory no longer exists, the repo Oscars moved about decade ago , first to Gosshawk and then to new owners, bar a couple still in store IIRC

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:41 am

Mohawks operated by Mohawk Technologies are:

69-17004
67-18899
67-18923
67-18924
67-15959
68-15946

CAROLINAS HISTORIC AVIATION COMMISSION has two:

62-05874
62-05890

And there are a number of others at:
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... 1&PageNo=1
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... 1&PageNo=1

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:52 am

The Ki-43 listed at the Pima Museum is on loan from NASM. This airplane has made quite the tour, having been previously at the EAA Museum and Museum of Flight.

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:12 pm

Whoever did the list of surviving PV-2's, is way off base for the airworthy and surviving Poons!

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:13 pm

First off, as I mentioned in the previous thread, if you could provide references it would be really helpful.

DaveM2 wrote:You can add a Ki-43 ( under restoration by Harada in Japan).

The Texas Airplane Factory no longer exists, the repo Oscars moved about decade ago , first to Gosshawk and then to new owners, bar a couple still in store IIRC

The Texas Airplane Factory entries were one of those cases where I just went ahead and kept the preexisting information because I didn't know any better and couldn't find any information on where they are now. I was kind of skeptical because I hadn't heard anything about them recently, but couldn't find any source to back that up. I have now updated the Museum of Flight entry based on this webpage. I also updated the location for Oscars #3 & 4 to GossHawk, but I'm going to need a good source to list them as going anywhere else since then.

EDIT: Whoops! I forgot to add the Harada Ki-43 you mentioned. Fixed! You wouldn't happen to know the MSN of that airframe, would you? You also made me realize that the Harada Zeros aren't on the Zero survivor list either.

Old SAR pilot wrote:Mohawks operated by Mohawk Technologies are:

69-17004
67-18899
67-18923
67-18924
67-15959
68-15946

CAROLINAS HISTORIC AVIATION COMMISSION has two:

62-05874
62-05890

And there are a number of others at:
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... 1&PageNo=1
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... 1&PageNo=1

I'll have to take a look at these in a little bit.

EDIT (16/02/25): Using your references, I've split the Mohawk Technologies entry into 4 separate entries - 1 for each airframe. I also added references to the 2 Carolinas Aviation Museum entries - it took me a minute to realize that the Carolinas Historic Aviation Commission was the same entity as the CAM. Finally, the FAA lists were helpful for updating a few of the other entries. Thanks for the info!

old iron wrote:The Ki-43 listed at the Pima Museum is on loan from NASM. This airplane has made quite the tour, having been previously at the EAA Museum and Museum of Flight.

I remember making sure to include the note about it previously being on display at the Museum of Flight so that people wouldn't get it confused with the one that was currently on display there. One of the three references I used was even the NASM's entry on that airframe! I didn't note that it was on loan NASM though. That's fixed now though! I've added a mention of the EAA Museum as well.

GARY HILTON wrote:Whoever did the list of surviving PV-2's, is way off base for the airworthy and surviving Poons!

It's quite likely, given the way Wikipedia works, that that list was put together by a number of people and you can't pin it down to one person. Also, it was probably last updated a number of years ago.

As always, thanks for the info guys!
Last edited by Noha307 on Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:25 pm

I did a bit of work improving lists where it came to New Zealand-based and -restored aircraft, unfortunately my IP address was blocked after repeated attempts to point out on TIGHAR's page that they hadn't actually recovered any historic aircraft...

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:13 pm

KiwiZac wrote:unfortunately my IP address was blocked after repeated attempts to point out on TIGHAR's page that they hadn't actually recovered any historic aircraft...


:lol: Thats awesome.. lol

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:08 pm

Noha307 wrote:First off, as I mentioned in the previous thread, if you could provide references it would be really helpful.

DaveM2 wrote:You can add a Ki-43 ( under restoration by Harada in Japan).

The Texas Airplane Factory no longer exists, the repo Oscars moved about decade ago , first to Gosshawk and then to new owners, bar a couple still in store IIRC

The Texas Airplane Factory entries were one of those cases where I just went ahead and kept the preexisting information because I didn't know any better and couldn't find any information on where they are now. I was kind of skeptical because I hadn't heard anything about them recently, but couldn't find any source to back that up. I have now updated the Museum of Flight entry based on this webpage. I also updated the location for Oscars #3 & 4 to GossHawk, but I'm going to need a good source to list them as going anywhere else since then.

EDIT: Whoops! I forgot to add the Harada Ki-43 you mentioned. Fixed! You wouldn't happen to know the MSN of that airframe, would you? You also made me realize that the Harada Zeros aren't on the Zero survivor list either.


Unfortunately we have not yet been unable to discover which aircraft the Harada Oscar is, it was stored postwar for the Australian War Memorial having been on display in Sydney during May 1945. The search continues....

Reference for the Oscar items - Classic Wings Issue 90 ''Oscar- Japan's Other best Fighter" which details all known survivors, recovered wrecks and relics and reproduction/replicas.

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:48 pm

Hi Noha,

I didn't see this A6M on your updated list:

http://www.airassets.com/saleitemDetails.php?ID=73

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=57430

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:59 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:
KiwiZac wrote:unfortunately my IP address was blocked after repeated attempts to point out on TIGHAR's page that they hadn't actually recovered any historic aircraft...


:lol: Thats awesome.. lol

The Wiki mods didn't seem to think so :lol:

Re: Improving and Updating Wikipedia Warbird Survivor Lists

Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:35 pm

stryper wrote:Hi Noha,

I didn't see this A6M on your updated list:

http://www.airassets.com/saleitemDetails.php?ID=73

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=57430

Added, thanks!

I'll point out that this aircraft appears to have used a small number of parts from msn 3148.
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