CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:59 am
CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Like the MB-5, I think of the CA-15 as a super Mustang dev.....
Was really surprised findning this! https://www.facebook.com/CA15Kangaroo/
I do not think it will be a flying version. And I could not find ore info on the subject.
Like the MB-5, I think of the CA-15 as a super Mustang dev.....
Was really surprised findning this! https://www.facebook.com/CA15Kangaroo/
I do not think it will be a flying version. And I could not find ore info on the subject.
Re: CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:26 am
Fantastic!
Re: CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:32 pm
Is this going to be a flyer or a static replica?
Re: CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:18 pm
Sopwith wrote:Is this going to be a flyer or a static replica?
Static
Re: CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:48 pm
Darn it
Re: CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:14 pm
Thanks Dan K.
Re: CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:04 pm
Hey Dan! Tks for the answer.
Where did you get the info? I searched ta lot but the only reference I got was the FB page.
Pretty obvious it is a static...but so nice to resurrect....
Such a great moment in WW2 aviation hardware resurection right now....
Done and flying / flown:
- F3F
- Me262
- Oscar
- FW190
In the works individual....
Wow so many in the works
- Whirlwind
- MB5 (semi replica....but what ever happenend???)
Please add to the list
Where did you get the info? I searched ta lot but the only reference I got was the FB page.
Pretty obvious it is a static...but so nice to resurrect....
Such a great moment in WW2 aviation hardware resurection right now....
Done and flying / flown:
- F3F
- Me262
- Oscar
- FW190
In the works individual....
Wow so many in the works
- Whirlwind
- MB5 (semi replica....but what ever happenend???)
Please add to the list
Re: CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:47 pm
My vote after the Sea Hornet would be a couple of practically new build Betty's and Me-110's. Also wonder if after the second P-82 is flown if there would be any market to build up a couple more from the remaining parts and scraps sourced from what's left over from the first two.
Re: CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:51 pm
Michel Lemieux wrote:Hey Dan! Tks for the answer.
Where did you get the info? I searched ta lot but the only reference I got was the FB page.
Pretty obvious it is a static...but so nice to resurrect....
Hi Michel,
I've been following the CA-15 Engineering Archive facebook page for about a year. Here's a post from some time ago:
...The cockpit is a static built to promote the idea that a lot of original engineering information survives and to build interest in the idea. It is just a segment above the wing but it gives a good sense of the size of this beast. As an Australian design you could fit yourself, an esky and a beach umbrella in with no problems. The rudder pedals are made for thongs. A lot of sheets of aluminium have gone into just this piece. It is not cheap. One of the remarkable documents that has come to light is a detailed cost breakdown of the whole CA-15 program. It will be interesting to convert this to modern dollars to show what a serious attempt would require.
I guess you could say that I have a somewhat similar agenda with the TBY, I just haven't converted as much aluminum sheet into project yet.
Re: CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:52 am
For those of us unfamiliar with this aircraft... from WikiPedia
The CAC CA-15, also known unofficially as the CAC Kangaroo, was an Australian propeller-driven fighter aircraft designed by the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation (CAC) during World War II. Due to protracted development, the project was not completed until after the war, and was cancelled after flight testing, when the advent of jet aircraft was imminent.
Design and development
As the limitations of the CAC Boomerang became more and more obvious against the Mitsubishi A6M Zero during 1942, Sir Lawrence Wackett proposed designing a new advanced performance fighter from scratch with Fred David heading an in-house CAC design team. During 1943, following the success of CAC and chief designer Fred David, in rapidly designing and mass-producing the small Boomerang fighter for the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF), CAC began design work on a fully fledged interceptor and bomber escort. In June 1943 the Royal Australian Air Force approved the design concept proposal and issued design specification 2/43 for work to commence
Although the CA-15 bore a superficial resemblance to the North American P-51 Mustang, the CAC design was not based directly on the American aircraft and had quite different performance objectives and dimensions. For instance, David had been impressed by assessments of captured Focke-Wulf Fw 190s and intended using a radial engine rather than the inline engines used in fighters like the Mustang. In fact, development of the CA-15 was slowed by a recommendation from CAC head Lawrence Wackett, that the company build Mustangs under licence, rather than bear the cost of developing a unique design. By the later stages of its development, it was believed that the CA-15 would have capabilities enabling it to replace the P-51.
At first, the CAC designers planned to use the 2,300 hp (1,715 kW) radial Pratt & Whitney R-2800, with a turbocharger. However, that engine became unavailable, causing further delays in development, and it was decided to fit an in-line Rolls-Royce Griffon Mk 61 (2,035 hp/1,517 kW). Engines for a prototype were leased from Rolls-Royce. It was intended that any production engines would have a three-stage supercharger.
Operational history
Development was further slowed by the end of the war, with the prototype flying for the first time on 4 March 1946, and was flown by CAC test pilot Jim Schofield, who also flew the first Australian built P-51. The prototype was assigned RAAF serial number A62-1001. According to aviation historian Darren Crick, it achieved a calibrated level flight speed of 448 mph (721 km/h) at 26,400 ft (8,046 m). Test flights came to an abrupt ending when Flt Lt J. A. L. Archer suffered a hydraulic failure (later found to be a leaking ground test gauge) on approach to Point Cook on 10 December 1946, which left him no choice but to orbit and burn off fuel. The main gear was only halfway down and unable to be retracted or lowered any further but the tail wheel was down and locked. On landing, the tail wheel struck the airstrip first causing the aircraft to porpoise and finally, the airscoop dug in. The aircraft settled back on the fuselage and skidded to a stop, heavily damaged. After repairs at CAC, the aircraft was returned to ARDU in 1948. Archer reportedly achieved a speed of 502.2 mph (803 km/h) over Melbourne, after levelling out of a dive of 4,000 ft (1,200 m), on 25 May 1948.
By this time, however, it was clear that jet aircraft had far greater potential and no further examples of the CA-15 were built. The prototype was scrapped in 1950, and the engines were returned to Rolls-Royce.
The CAC CA-15, also known unofficially as the CAC Kangaroo, was an Australian propeller-driven fighter aircraft designed by the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation (CAC) during World War II. Due to protracted development, the project was not completed until after the war, and was cancelled after flight testing, when the advent of jet aircraft was imminent.
Design and development
As the limitations of the CAC Boomerang became more and more obvious against the Mitsubishi A6M Zero during 1942, Sir Lawrence Wackett proposed designing a new advanced performance fighter from scratch with Fred David heading an in-house CAC design team. During 1943, following the success of CAC and chief designer Fred David, in rapidly designing and mass-producing the small Boomerang fighter for the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF), CAC began design work on a fully fledged interceptor and bomber escort. In June 1943 the Royal Australian Air Force approved the design concept proposal and issued design specification 2/43 for work to commence
Although the CA-15 bore a superficial resemblance to the North American P-51 Mustang, the CAC design was not based directly on the American aircraft and had quite different performance objectives and dimensions. For instance, David had been impressed by assessments of captured Focke-Wulf Fw 190s and intended using a radial engine rather than the inline engines used in fighters like the Mustang. In fact, development of the CA-15 was slowed by a recommendation from CAC head Lawrence Wackett, that the company build Mustangs under licence, rather than bear the cost of developing a unique design. By the later stages of its development, it was believed that the CA-15 would have capabilities enabling it to replace the P-51.
At first, the CAC designers planned to use the 2,300 hp (1,715 kW) radial Pratt & Whitney R-2800, with a turbocharger. However, that engine became unavailable, causing further delays in development, and it was decided to fit an in-line Rolls-Royce Griffon Mk 61 (2,035 hp/1,517 kW). Engines for a prototype were leased from Rolls-Royce. It was intended that any production engines would have a three-stage supercharger.
Operational history
Development was further slowed by the end of the war, with the prototype flying for the first time on 4 March 1946, and was flown by CAC test pilot Jim Schofield, who also flew the first Australian built P-51. The prototype was assigned RAAF serial number A62-1001. According to aviation historian Darren Crick, it achieved a calibrated level flight speed of 448 mph (721 km/h) at 26,400 ft (8,046 m). Test flights came to an abrupt ending when Flt Lt J. A. L. Archer suffered a hydraulic failure (later found to be a leaking ground test gauge) on approach to Point Cook on 10 December 1946, which left him no choice but to orbit and burn off fuel. The main gear was only halfway down and unable to be retracted or lowered any further but the tail wheel was down and locked. On landing, the tail wheel struck the airstrip first causing the aircraft to porpoise and finally, the airscoop dug in. The aircraft settled back on the fuselage and skidded to a stop, heavily damaged. After repairs at CAC, the aircraft was returned to ARDU in 1948. Archer reportedly achieved a speed of 502.2 mph (803 km/h) over Melbourne, after levelling out of a dive of 4,000 ft (1,200 m), on 25 May 1948.
By this time, however, it was clear that jet aircraft had far greater potential and no further examples of the CA-15 were built. The prototype was scrapped in 1950, and the engines were returned to Rolls-Royce.
Re: CAC CA-15 replica under way....
Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:45 am
From what I understand this is a replica cockpit section which is giving the team the experience required to make a full size 100% scale replica of the prototype. There is still lots of parts out there which will be used to build the replica.