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Results of a stall? ...

Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:37 pm

No accident reports that I can dig up on either one, but they sure look like they both just fell out of the sky straight down.

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Stateside Thunderbolt complete write off.

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Stateside Corsair completely destroyed.

Re: Results of a stall? ...

Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:22 pm

The P-47 looks like 42-28103. If so, the Aviation Safety Network site shows w/o accident for this ship on 3 May 44 4 miles north of Evansville, IN airport. It also lists a w/o for P-47 42-28106 same date, same location. Perhaps a midair or ground collision.

Re: Results of a stall? ...

Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:35 pm

Just checked aviationarchaeology.com. It shows both P-47s in my previous comment were involved in a midair collision 3 May 44 north of Evansville, IN airport. Both pilots bailed out.

Re: Results of a stall? ...

Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:52 pm

I've seen photos of other crashes where the remains look similar to these, usually as the result of a (flat) spin.

Re: Results of a stall? ...

Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:00 pm

The rate of descent when the Corsair hit must have been tremendous and I too would suspect a stall/spin. Look at how the one prop blade is curled nearly around the hub, the dihedral in the Wings nearly non-existent, and the vertical crushing of the fuselage. I certainly hope the pilot successfully bailed out as I fear the G forces would have likely killed him.

Re: Results of a stall? ...

Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:25 pm

Vi Baughers website...

42-28103 (MSN 1765)
Republic Aviation Corporation, Evansville MAP, IN; Mid air collision 3May44 with P-47D 42-28106 and crashed 4 miles N of Evansville; Pilot bailed out

Re: Results of a stall? ...

Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:47 pm

It seems both aircraft probably spun in. The Corsair might have been on the bottom of a loop but the fact that it's all in one piece sort of, and how the ground is fairly unscathed also suggests a spin. Neither would've been survivable. From the descriptions of Jeff Ethell's P-38 crash, this is how I imagine that P-38 looks. I'm told it's a terrible candidate for a rebuild.
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