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Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:33 pm

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...Cutlass!

It’s a Vought F7U Cutlass!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxrYT7dQH8w


It’s a dashcam video... Give it a few moments to get to the airplane part!

geek


Not my video...

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:59 pm

Where was the video taken? State, nearest city, highway/Interstate number, direction of movement.

Thanks

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:00 pm

WIX member Cutlass

Here's a story Warbird Watcher

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:57 am

Was this the Cutlass that was in the Museum of Flight's resto hangar at Paine Field for the longest time?

Has to be the same one, correct? There couldn't have been two at that field?

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:37 am

One in the same....

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:33 am

So - and you will have to excuse my ignorance - is this going to be a flyer?

Tom P.

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:02 am

wendovertom wrote:So - and you will have to excuse my ignorance - is this going to be a flyer?

Tom P.


That is the intent of the owner, Mr. Al Casby. He now has 2 Cutlass aircraft.

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:30 am

sandiego89 wrote:
wendovertom wrote:So - and you will have to excuse my ignorance - is this going to be a flyer?

Tom P.


That is the intent of the owner, Mr. Al Casby. He now has 2 Cutlass aircraft.


SWEEET!

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:09 pm

Hey Tom, I made a side trip to Wendover last week while we were stuck in Jackpot,NV for five days due to Nevada Highway Patrol escort timing issues. Wanted to look you up and check out Kay’s T-birds. Must have hit it on a bad day, as everything was closed up at Kay’s. Sorry I missed meeting you at the museum.

The F7U is finally home and now the rest of the work begins.....

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:28 pm

From reading the history on the Cutlass I think it might be better to keep this one as a static display.....

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:55 pm

chainfeed wrote:From reading the history on the Cutlass I think it might be better to keep this one as a static display.....

:shock: Now you done it!

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:52 pm

A case by case study of each and every accident report reveals that only a few were a result of aircraft failure or system failure. The vast majority were human failures, many on the maintenance side. Unfortunately, the internet does the aircraft a disservice by constantly repeating the same mantra over and over again.

After interviewing over 100 F7U pilots over the past 45 years, only a few had bad things to say about the aircraft, and those that did, interestingly repeated the same tired phrases found on line and in several of the ill-researched books and articles that permeate the bookstores.

I have found that those that spoke un-lovingly about the F7U spent most of the conversation comparing it to more modern fighters that they flew later and lamented its performance and power compared to much later technology. Apples and Oranges..... one needs to judge machines in the context of their time, otherwise a P-51 and a F4U would be considered lousy aircraft if their performance and characteristics are compared to an F-16 and an F-35. Even the late Wally Schirra, the pre-eminent Cutlass instructor pilot spoke well of the aircraft when he flew it, and increasingly lambasted it as he was exposed to higher performance aircraft that had more thrust and solutions to issues that were not available at the time of the F7U.

Like wives, not everyone has to love and appreciate yours..... unless you happen to be the one married to her, and you learn to look past her imperfections (or else!)

Al

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:31 pm

Cutlass wrote:A case by case study of each and every accident report reveals that only a few were a result of aircraft failure or system failure. The vast majority were human failures, many on the maintenance side. Unfortunately, the internet does the aircraft a disservice by constantly repeating the same mantra over and over again.

After interviewing over 100 F7U pilots over the past 45 years, only a few had bad things to say about the aircraft, and those that did, interestingly repeated the same tired phrases found on line and in several of the ill-researched books and articles that permeate the bookstores.

I have found that those that spoke un-lovingly about the F7U spent most of the conversation comparing it to more modern fighters that they flew later and lamented its performance and power compared to much later technology. Apples and Oranges..... one needs to judge machines in the context of their time, otherwise a P-51 and a F4U would be considered lousy aircraft if their performance and characteristics are compared to an F-16 and an F-35. Even the late Wally Schirra, the pre-eminent Cutlass instructor pilot spoke well of the aircraft when he flew it, and increasingly lambasted it as he was exposed to higher performance aircraft that had more thrust and solutions to issues that were not available at the time of the F7U.

Like wives, not everyone has to love and appreciate yours..... unless you happen to be the one married to her, and you learn to look past her imperfections (or else!)

Al



Very well said Al and I think the Cutlass restoration is one of the most exciting projects currently ongoing. And the fact that I am just across town makes it even more exciting! I look forward to seeing the old girl in the future.

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:03 am

airnutz wrote:
chainfeed wrote:From reading the history on the Cutlass I think it might be better to keep this one as a static display.....

:shock: Now you done it!


I have a tendency to do that..... just ask my wife.

Re: Not your daddy’s Oldsmobile...

Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:03 am

Exciting stuff and congratulations on getting the move complete, Al.

My dad took these at the Detroit Air Show in 1952.

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