Is this a Lancaster or Halifax or......?

[hairy]

This is a photo from my slowly expanding collection and I would like to know what type it is (was).



Thanks in advance.

[peter]

Lancaster for sure look at the cowlings... unmistakeable

[Jerry O'Neill]

Any chance it could be a Manchester?
Jerry

[Swiss Mustangs]

nope Jerry

it's a 4-engined job..... Lancaster 100 %

Martin

[Steve T]

Hi all--

Looks like a Lanc indeed; note also the broad rounded spinner on the starboard inner, a Halifax would have a more conical unit.

The exposed prop hub on the starboard outer looks Hamilton Standard; is this an early Canadian Lanc? (Or did the Hamilton-related DH props have the same sort of hub?)

S.

[Aircraft Mech Paul]

Definitely NOT a Halifax,

Due to the shape of what's left of the engine cowls. The Halifax had radials if my recollection is right. Could be a Manchester....but more likely a Lancaster.

Paul

[Richard W.]

I see 2 engines visible on the near wing- Can't be a Manchester.

[Raven]

Dunno where this Manchester obsession is coming in...

The Manchester had, as has been said, two engines. They were also 'X' type 'Vulture' engines, resulting in two sets of exhaust stubs per side, as against the 'V' type Merlin engine in the Lanc with one set per side.

The Vulture engine nacelle was much deeper to encompass a taller engine.

Those are Lancaster engine pods; similar to the quick change units used on the Miles M-20 and Beaufighter Mk.II; two other aircraft this isn't.

Incidentally, Aircraft Mech Paul is right about it not being a Halifax, but for the wrong reasons. The Halifax Mk.I and II had Merlins, but the engine nacelle was a very different shape. See http://www.raf.mod.uk/bombercommand/halifax_spec.html for the Merlin and Hercules engined variant lists.

It's a Lancaster.

[norman malayney]

It would appear the engine has a shroud covering the exhaust pipes as used on night flying aircraft. Is there indeed an exhaust shroud attached to the nacelle?

Norman Malayney

[Swiss Mustangs]

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/AA ... aster.html



Martin

[Raven]

It would appear the engine has a shroud covering the exhaust pipes as used on night flying aircraft. Is there indeed an exhaust shroud attached to the nacelle?

It is, and almost all wartime Lancs were so fitted. None of those in preservation or many postwar have flown with shrouds, though, as they are not a good idea unless night-fighters are your post pressing threat.

[norman malayney]

Gentlemen,

Is that a prop blade sticking up in the air, attached to the inner Merlin engine?
Or is it an antenna?

The Avro York had a very tall antenna on top the fuselage. The wartime Yorks also had exhaust shrouds on their Merlin engines.

Yours very truly,
Norman Malayney

[Raven]

Is that a prop blade sticking up in the air, attached to the inner Merlin engine?

Hi Norman,

It is, very certainly, a prop blade from the starboard inner engine.

Let's stop trying to make it more complicated than it is. As someone once said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

Regards,

[DIK SHEPHERD]

Actually, it's just a piece of burned out junk.

[Raven]

Actually, it's just a piece of burned out junk.

...in which a group of brave young men almost certainly died.

Thanks.