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B-17s & B-24s

Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:57 pm

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B-24D 98th BG
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B-24D "Kate smith" at Bengazi
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B-17F 381st BG
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Freeing the wounded & lucky tail gunner
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Landing with flak damage
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flak alley

Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:30 pm

Great stuff, Jack! That tail gunner was lucky.

Wade

Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:02 pm

Thanks again for sharing Jack...I love the one showing the B-17 with the left waist gunner staring back at the camera. :o

John

Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:04 pm

Hmmm... That first one looks a bit staged. Look at the size of the spray gun. Not much good for the details.

Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:22 pm

Many Thanks for sharing. I bet your report card says "Plays well with others."
:D

Photos

Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:37 pm

Many Thanks for sharing. I bet your report card says "Plays well with others."

Actually I have a couple of those and I believe they said "smart ass".
Which I suyppose if better than being a dump ass!!
Actually From my narrow way of thinking, what's the use of having them if you can't share them with your friends and others who'd enjoy seeing them also!

Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:31 pm

ww2John wrote:Many Thanks for sharing. I bet your report card says "Plays well with others."
:D
If you are referring to me, I was just wondering what the significance of the photo was. It must have been staged for a reason and it isn't obvious to me what that reason is.

I'm still very happy to see the photo staged or not. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough on that point. Why would I ever NOT want to see a period photo? :?

Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:02 pm

It must have been staged for a reason and it isn't obvious to me what that reason is.

She was headed home to sell bonds like the B-25D Desert Warrior which had a similar map painted on the fuselage.

Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:38 am

"Look at the size of the spray gun. Not much good for the details."

A question, without any ulterior motive:

Isn't the size of the nozzle opening in reality what matters?

True that given the size of the spray gun fine detail would not be possible, but the flames seen there, do not look that elaborate to me.

Any comments, please?

Saludos,


Tulio

Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:06 am

Very nice photos.

For the record ...
Douglas-Long Beach B-17F-25-DL Fortress
42-3078 (*Winsome Winn*, 381st BG, 534th BS) shot down by flak and fighters and crashed in Schiffweiler, Saarland, Germany, Jan 7, 1944.
2 KIA, 8 POW. MACR 1873.

Boeing B-17G-15-BO Fortress
42-31335 (385th BG, 548th BS, "Honky Tonk Sal") crashed 5 mi E
of Cambridge, England, May 12, 1945. W/o and salvaged.

Regards,

Amado

Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:52 am

IF I remember correctly, that picture of the Kate Smith B-24 was taken shortly after the pulled her nose out of the mud. I have a picture somewhere of her still nose down. Although I don't remember if it was a nose gear collapse, or just sank into the mud.

Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:19 am

Tulio wrote:Isn't the size of the nozzle opening in reality what matters?

True that given the size of the spray gun fine detail would not be possible, but the flames seen there, do not look that elaborate to me.
My guess is that they would have masked them and then used that spray gun. I've never seen smaller nozzles for those guns, but I am an amateur aircraft painter so I am no expert. A large gun like that isn't used for fine details like you would use an airbrush to paint a model or a t-shirt.

Also, thanks for clarifying that those are flames. I didn't know what the heck they represented.

Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:10 am

Jack,

you seem to have an endless library. Thank you for taking the time to share them, they are excellent photo's.

Paul
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