Bf-109?
Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:50 pm
I'm not fluent in German. Whats the story on this one?
http://www.flughafen-aspern.at/forum/vi ... ?p=36813#3
Regards,
Mike
http://www.flughafen-aspern.at/forum/vi ... ?p=36813#3
Regards,
Mike
Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:19 am
A rough translation is as follows: (some of the captions are difficult)
It is a legend of aviation. Well known pilots such as Hans Joachim Marseille, Erich "Bubi" Hartmann, Walter Nowotny, Heinz and many other contributed substantially to its fame. Next to the Focke Wulf 190, it formed the spine of the fighter plane fleet of the German Air Force in the second world war. We are speaking of the Messerschmitt Bf (Me) 109 with approximately 35,000 variants produced. It is therewith the most numerous built military airplane of the world – even today. About 30% of all the constructed machines were constructed by the Viennese new city-dweller airplane works. Today there exists worldwide only a handful of flight capable copies. Some dozens of machines stand in museums. In Austria, there was, to see, until now, not one completely received copy of this classic of the aviation.
This is now different. The Me 109 is returned to one its "birth sites". That under the direction of likes. Aviation museum "Aviaticum"near Cunia at the airport of Vienna east, are now at the first Austrian museum is one wonderful restored, complete Messerschmitt Me 109 G6.
On the 10 November 2006, the solemn presentation took place, whereby Ing. Steiner and his grandchildren involved in the planning of the machine under the approval of the present guests - under that also other flying veterans of the second world war.
The machine was redone - including the preparation time - in about 20 years!! Restoration by Kurt Steiner, into a condition, that astonishs and awes us. It is difficult, to believe that the machine should not be flight suitable. You really expect to hear at any moment the satisfied sound of the Daimler of Benz motor begin and to see roll the machine out of the hall …
Its put together from parts of the Me 109 G6 of Ing. Steiner, by the way, out of the components of several machines. The main components of the exhibit form the hull middle as well as the deceit areas of a Bf 109 G-14/AS of the 4th squadron of the JG 53 that on the 01 January 1945 in the frame of the operation "bottom disk" was shot down.
The airplane leader, Uffz. Herbert Maxis succeeded a successful emergency landing, but it was shot after leaving of the airplane of allied soldier.
In the year 1987, the wreck became recovered and with parts of other machines, among other things with a stern of a 1942 Me produced in Vienna's Neustadt 109, where the Me 109 G6 was constructed.
To the memory of Uffz. Maxis recovered the airplane the Bemalung of those 109 G14/AS that it had flown at that 1 January 1945.
It is a legend of aviation. Well known pilots such as Hans Joachim Marseille, Erich "Bubi" Hartmann, Walter Nowotny, Heinz and many other contributed substantially to its fame. Next to the Focke Wulf 190, it formed the spine of the fighter plane fleet of the German Air Force in the second world war. We are speaking of the Messerschmitt Bf (Me) 109 with approximately 35,000 variants produced. It is therewith the most numerous built military airplane of the world – even today. About 30% of all the constructed machines were constructed by the Viennese new city-dweller airplane works. Today there exists worldwide only a handful of flight capable copies. Some dozens of machines stand in museums. In Austria, there was, to see, until now, not one completely received copy of this classic of the aviation.
This is now different. The Me 109 is returned to one its "birth sites". That under the direction of likes. Aviation museum "Aviaticum"near Cunia at the airport of Vienna east, are now at the first Austrian museum is one wonderful restored, complete Messerschmitt Me 109 G6.
On the 10 November 2006, the solemn presentation took place, whereby Ing. Steiner and his grandchildren involved in the planning of the machine under the approval of the present guests - under that also other flying veterans of the second world war.
The machine was redone - including the preparation time - in about 20 years!! Restoration by Kurt Steiner, into a condition, that astonishs and awes us. It is difficult, to believe that the machine should not be flight suitable. You really expect to hear at any moment the satisfied sound of the Daimler of Benz motor begin and to see roll the machine out of the hall …
Its put together from parts of the Me 109 G6 of Ing. Steiner, by the way, out of the components of several machines. The main components of the exhibit form the hull middle as well as the deceit areas of a Bf 109 G-14/AS of the 4th squadron of the JG 53 that on the 01 January 1945 in the frame of the operation "bottom disk" was shot down.
The airplane leader, Uffz. Herbert Maxis succeeded a successful emergency landing, but it was shot after leaving of the airplane of allied soldier.
In the year 1987, the wreck became recovered and with parts of other machines, among other things with a stern of a 1942 Me produced in Vienna's Neustadt 109, where the Me 109 G6 was constructed.
To the memory of Uffz. Maxis recovered the airplane the Bemalung of those 109 G14/AS that it had flown at that 1 January 1945.
Last edited by EDowning on Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:26 am
Err, sure, Eric...but back to high school German for you! 
The final product looks great. Most of this airframe is G-14, Werk Nr. 784993. Its status as an ongoing restoration has been listed at the preserved axis aircraft site for quite some time.
The final product looks great. Most of this airframe is G-14, Werk Nr. 784993. Its status as an ongoing restoration has been listed at the preserved axis aircraft site for quite some time.
Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:40 am
You get what you pay for.....six months at DLI in 1981, and living in Germany for 5 years (mostly drinking beer and flying attack helicopters), and that's the best I can do. Your tax dollars at work.
Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:59 am
Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:30 am
This aircraft was being rebuilt to fly by Robert Wagner and was buried in a tank trap on a farm where it had crash landed during Operation Bodenplatte. Wings, fuselage centre section and parts were recovered in 1987. Fuselage is new build.
Dave
Dave
Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:36 am
Another interesting aspect to this.....
After I got done with my "rough" translation, I read some of the posts after the 109 was debuted. These posts are from the "Austrian Aviation Forum" and several of the posts are complaining that the 109 could not be painted in the actual wartime paint scheme because of the illegality of depicting Nazi symbols in Germany and Austria.
Several of the post complain about "political correctness" and "re-writing of history books".
Interesting to see that no matter what is posted and where, the same type
of issues are raised on other boards.
At least no one mentioned "pots to piss in" on the Austrian board.
After I got done with my "rough" translation, I read some of the posts after the 109 was debuted. These posts are from the "Austrian Aviation Forum" and several of the posts are complaining that the 109 could not be painted in the actual wartime paint scheme because of the illegality of depicting Nazi symbols in Germany and Austria.
Several of the post complain about "political correctness" and "re-writing of history books".
Interesting to see that no matter what is posted and where, the same type
of issues are raised on other boards.
At least no one mentioned "pots to piss in" on the Austrian board.
Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:05 am
Swastikas on static aircraft are perfectly legal in Germany/ Austria, take a look at he aicraft on display at DTM and Sinsheim etc as examples. But of course it is the museums choice.
They are illegal on flying aircraft.
Dave
They are illegal on flying aircraft.
Dave
Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:14 am
Wow...a very nice restoration.
Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:24 am
Holy smokes! What a good lookin' airplane. And they were on my kind of schedule for the completion of the restoration. 
Twenty years???
Gary
Twenty years???
Gary
Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:32 am
DaveM2 wrote:Swastikas on static aircraft are perfectly legal in Germany/ Austria, take a look at he aicraft on display at DTM and Sinsheim etc as examples. But of course it is the museums choice.
They are illegal on flying aircraft.
Dave
And this one doesn't have one.
Cracking restoration, though. Particularly like that rear three-quarter shot of it (with all the gliders above it) - looks quite menacing in that shot.
Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:26 am
Other than the missing Swastika, is the paint scheme authentic to the plane?
Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:05 am
Great looking restoration. Although, if it was restored as a G14, isn't that the wrong canopy?
Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:38 am
http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/forum ... topic=2731
For an explanation about what is going on, and a recovery picture and a crash 1945 picture!
For an explanation about what is going on, and a recovery picture and a crash 1945 picture!
Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:44 pm
When I click on the link it says it is an invalid page. When I try to register for the site, it says it won't accept my gmail.com email address.