Pembroke in Puyallup/Plane Sailing Catalina
Tue Dec 28, 2004 5:41 pm
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1950s Hunting Aircraft LTD Pembroke MK51
Vehicle Description
The Pembroke was built in the 1950s for many military's and served doing many roles, Air ambulance, Cartography, VIP transport and Aerial Servey. This Pembroke served The Royal Belgian Air Force and our BLM doing Marine research.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63678&item=4514984132
1950s Hunting Aircraft LTD Pembroke MK51
Vehicle Description
The Pembroke was built in the 1950s for many military's and served doing many roles, Air ambulance, Cartography, VIP transport and Aerial Servey. This Pembroke served The Royal Belgian Air Force and our BLM doing Marine research.
And also:
Consolidated PBY-5A CATALINA Flying Boat (1/20th Share)- 2 shares still available!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63678&item=4514776760
http://www.catalinabookings.org/main.asp
OK, why aren't we doing this in the US?
Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:39 pm
Is there any collective experience on the board regarding this method of ownership? If you want to respond off list, PM me. I'd be interested to hear about the experiences.
I would expect that the EXACT mix of people would have to be in the formula, especially in regards to maintenance, improvements, and flying currency. Can this be done?
I would expect that the EXACT mix of people would have to be in the formula, especially in regards to maintenance, improvements, and flying currency. Can this be done?
Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:27 am
Forgotten Field,
This type of ownership (shares) is quite common in Europe, it started a long time ago with General Aviation (spam cans) mainly due to the high cost of aviation in Europe, it was/is a quick and cheap way for a new pilot to get hours in, without having to actually buy a complete a/c.
The advantages are all cost of ownership are defreyed over a group of people, so that actual costs are reduced for the individual.
The disadvantages are that you might not always get the slot you want, especially during the holiday periods, and remember weather in Europe is not always ideal flying weather, so you pays your money and takes your chances.
Overall it is generally a good idea, if you are with the right people and the terms of ownership/use are spelled out in such a way that nobody misunderstands their status it is a great way to fly, especially if you are personally limited to a few hours per month/year, due to other commitments.
Most times these groups are set up as Limited Liability Companies, and each of the part owners have the same number of shares, so there is no single person in the group who ownes more than the others.
But at the end of the day, the only way it works is with like-minded people in the group working together, otherwise it can be a shambles.
So it can be good, but it can also be bad.
Hope this helps
Stuart
This type of ownership (shares) is quite common in Europe, it started a long time ago with General Aviation (spam cans) mainly due to the high cost of aviation in Europe, it was/is a quick and cheap way for a new pilot to get hours in, without having to actually buy a complete a/c.
The advantages are all cost of ownership are defreyed over a group of people, so that actual costs are reduced for the individual.
The disadvantages are that you might not always get the slot you want, especially during the holiday periods, and remember weather in Europe is not always ideal flying weather, so you pays your money and takes your chances.
Overall it is generally a good idea, if you are with the right people and the terms of ownership/use are spelled out in such a way that nobody misunderstands their status it is a great way to fly, especially if you are personally limited to a few hours per month/year, due to other commitments.
Most times these groups are set up as Limited Liability Companies, and each of the part owners have the same number of shares, so there is no single person in the group who ownes more than the others.
But at the end of the day, the only way it works is with like-minded people in the group working together, otherwise it can be a shambles.
So it can be good, but it can also be bad.
Hope this helps
Stuart
Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:42 am
In case anyone's wondering, the location of that Pembroke in Washington State is pronounced "Pyoo-all-up." I have seen that name bastardized a hunderd different ways before 
Interesting, I lived in the Puget Sound area for 22 years, and flew all over the place in my dad's Navion. Never once do I recall seeing that airplane at Puyallup. I wonder where it's been, or if it's been out behind a hangar or something all those years?
Interesting, I lived in the Puget Sound area for 22 years, and flew all over the place in my dad's Navion. Never once do I recall seeing that airplane at Puyallup. I wonder where it's been, or if it's been out behind a hangar or something all those years?
Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:00 am
Randy,
It was sitting out beside a hanger when I saw it two or three years ago. I can't remember what the name of that road is that runs past the airport, but it seems like you went to the South(?) end of the field and turned left. I can't remember exactly, but it could be seen from the road without too much trouble. It didn't look to be in very good shape though.
When I first moved out there, I had all manner of trouble learning to pronounce Puyallup.
It was sitting out beside a hanger when I saw it two or three years ago. I can't remember what the name of that road is that runs past the airport, but it seems like you went to the South(?) end of the field and turned left. I can't remember exactly, but it could be seen from the road without too much trouble. It didn't look to be in very good shape though.
When I first moved out there, I had all manner of trouble learning to pronounce Puyallup.
Jarhedz
Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:34 am
Translation: The Navy dropped me off here. I can't pronounce the posted
directions....and I lost the roadmap they issued me!!
directions....and I lost the roadmap they issued me!!
Wed Dec 29, 2004 10:49 am
Randy, I bet it's sitting at Thun Field.
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Another one
Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:33 pm
That reminds me, in the late 70s there was a Pembroke at Van Nuys, I beieve it was being used by a California University for Marine Research. Wonder if it's the same plane?
Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:41 pm
Mr. Boyle:
It's the same plane, and it went to Watsonville, Ca.
Chris
It's the same plane, and it went to Watsonville, Ca.
Chris
Re: OK, why aren't we doing this in the US?
Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:42 am
Forgotten Field wrote:Is there any collective experience on the board regarding this method of ownership? If you want to respond off list, PM me. I'd be interested to hear about the experiences.
Apparently this form of ownership is not unknown in the States:
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