New Toys (Yes, it's about Warbirds)
Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:40 pm
READY FOR MIDLAND
After 2 years of hunting for parts, welding, manufacturing, machining, Parkerizing, De-milling and generally spending piles of cash, we have turned these.....
In to these...............
The pictures really don't do them justice, I found the right and left feeders, correct mounting trays, feed chutes and even the de-linker chutes (thanks to Albert Stix). Now I am on a total hunt for 2 correct Ammo boxes. They are rare and look like this.
After 2 years of hunting for parts, welding, manufacturing, machining, Parkerizing, De-milling and generally spending piles of cash, we have turned these.....
In to these...............
The pictures really don't do them justice, I found the right and left feeders, correct mounting trays, feed chutes and even the de-linker chutes (thanks to Albert Stix). Now I am on a total hunt for 2 correct Ammo boxes. They are rare and look like this.
Re: New Toys (Yes, it's about Warbirds)
Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:51 pm
Dimensions? I can troll some of the gun boards if you like.EDowning wrote:Now I am on a total hunt for 2 correct Ammo boxes. They are rare and look like this.
Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:57 pm
BDK Wrote:
That's a very nice offer. To be honest, I don't know the exact dimensions, but will find out. The picture I posted is from the only one I have ever seen personally, it's in a great little museum at the Tyler TX, airport. Any help would be greatly appreciated, you can barely see them when installed in the airplane, but you know how it goes, why stop now when I have already found everything else.
Dimensions? I can troll some of the gun boards if you like.
That's a very nice offer. To be honest, I don't know the exact dimensions, but will find out. The picture I posted is from the only one I have ever seen personally, it's in a great little museum at the Tyler TX, airport. Any help would be greatly appreciated, you can barely see them when installed in the airplane, but you know how it goes, why stop now when I have already found everything else.
Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:15 pm
Turned out pretty nice Eric. How many pieces were they cut into before you started? (Been there and done that)
And you found some link eject chutes. We're still looking... also hoping to find one of the charging cylinders and related attach parts.
Looking Good!
And you found some link eject chutes. We're still looking... also hoping to find one of the charging cylinders and related attach parts.
Looking Good!
Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:17 pm
Very nice Eric,
Looking forward to seeing it in a few weeks. Just a couple weeks ago, I also had a chance to see Danny Summers AD at the Wings Over Wine Country air show in Santa Rosa CA, and here's a shot of his setup
Looking forward to seeing it in a few weeks. Just a couple weeks ago, I also had a chance to see Danny Summers AD at the Wings Over Wine Country air show in Santa Rosa CA, and here's a shot of his setup
Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:34 pm
Hal B wrote:
3 pieces each, we used 4 guns to make 2 for the inboards. I had 2 barrels
made from scratch for the outboards. We had the tips threaded back 6 inches and an insert made that has the exact lands and grooves, so you can't tell that there are not rifled all the way through.
I might have a line on chargers, if you are interested. I'll have to check with someone.
Roger wrote:
Danny is one of the truly good guys in the warbird community, he let me fly his AD5 prior to soloing mine. Our guns are very comparable, only big diff is that he painted his and I went ahead and Parkerized mine, you can see in the pics that the suppressor sleeve on the barrels so the difference in color when you Parkerize them, but that's the way it was.
Thanks for the kind words.
Turned out pretty nice Eric. How many pieces were they cut into before you started? (Been there and done that)
And you found some link eject chutes. We're still looking... also hoping to find one of the charging cylinders and related attach parts.
Looking Good!
3 pieces each, we used 4 guns to make 2 for the inboards. I had 2 barrels
made from scratch for the outboards. We had the tips threaded back 6 inches and an insert made that has the exact lands and grooves, so you can't tell that there are not rifled all the way through.
I might have a line on chargers, if you are interested. I'll have to check with someone.
Roger wrote:
Very nice Eric,
Looking forward to seeing it in a few weeks. Just a couple weeks ago, I also had a chance to see Danny Summers AD at the Wings Over Wine Country air show in Santa Rosa CA, and here's a shot of his setup
Danny is one of the truly good guys in the warbird community, he let me fly his AD5 prior to soloing mine. Our guns are very comparable, only big diff is that he painted his and I went ahead and Parkerized mine, you can see in the pics that the suppressor sleeve on the barrels so the difference in color when you Parkerize them, but that's the way it was.
Thanks for the kind words.
Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:50 pm
[quote="EDowning"]
I might have a line on chargers, if you are interested. I'll have to check with someone.
[quote]
Yes, we'd be interested
I might have a line on chargers, if you are interested. I'll have to check with someone.
[quote]
Yes, we'd be interested
Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:58 pm
Hal B,
I'll make some calls. What are you putting them on?
I'll make some calls. What are you putting them on?
Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:16 am
I understand the concept! "Why stop now" causes most of my projects to stretch on needlessly...EDowning wrote:To be honest, I don't know the exact dimensions, but will find out. The picture I posted is from the only one I have ever seen personally, it's in a great little museum at the Tyler TX, airport. Any help would be greatly appreciated, you can barely see them when installed in the airplane, but you know how it goes, why stop now when I have already found everything else.
These boxes fit in the wings, right? What size is the cavity in the wings? How many rounds do they hold?
Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:43 am
EDowning wrote:BDK Wrote:Dimensions? I can troll some of the gun boards if you like.
That's a very nice offer. To be honest, I don't know the exact dimensions, but will find out. The picture I posted is from the only one I have ever seen personally, it's in a great little museum at the Tyler TX, airport. Any help would be greatly appreciated, you can barely see them when installed in the airplane, but you know how it goes, why stop now when I have already found everything else.
My dad lives outside Tyler. Should I ask him to take a drive and find out?
Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:59 am
Good Golly Miss Molly........Very nice Eric very nice.
where did you end up finding those gems?
Shay
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Semper Fortis
where did you end up finding those gems?
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:00 am
Nice!
Can I ask what is Parkerizing?
Can I ask what is Parkerizing?
Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:25 am
From Wikipedia...
Parkerizing (also called phosphating and phosphatizing) is a method of protecting a steel surface from corrosion and increasing its resistance to wear through the application of an electrochemical phosphate conversion coating. Parkerizing is usually considered to be an improved zinc or manganese phosphating process, and not to be an improved iron phosphating process, although some use the term parkerizing as a generic term for applying phosphating (or phosphatizing) coatings that does include the iron phosphating process. Parkerizing is commonly used on firearms as a more effective alternative to bluing, which is another electrochemical conversion coating that was developed earlier. The Parkerizing process cannot be used on non-ferrous metals such as aluminum, brass, or copper. It similarly cannot be applied to steels containing a large amount of nickel, or on stainless steel. (See Passivation for protecting other metals.)
Look at the finish on any military weapon. It'll be "Parkerized".
Mudge the researcher
Parkerizing (also called phosphating and phosphatizing) is a method of protecting a steel surface from corrosion and increasing its resistance to wear through the application of an electrochemical phosphate conversion coating. Parkerizing is usually considered to be an improved zinc or manganese phosphating process, and not to be an improved iron phosphating process, although some use the term parkerizing as a generic term for applying phosphating (or phosphatizing) coatings that does include the iron phosphating process. Parkerizing is commonly used on firearms as a more effective alternative to bluing, which is another electrochemical conversion coating that was developed earlier. The Parkerizing process cannot be used on non-ferrous metals such as aluminum, brass, or copper. It similarly cannot be applied to steels containing a large amount of nickel, or on stainless steel. (See Passivation for protecting other metals.)
Look at the finish on any military weapon. It'll be "Parkerized".
Mudge the researcher
Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:33 pm
ERIC, I have seen those boxes!!!! They look dam close to a couple that I had seen at a Military vehicle rally in NH.........unfortunatly i bought the Bigger "Rocket Box" for the EOD tools in dad's and mine 3/4 truck. Find some dimensions and i will find out who had them.
Skyraider Wing Ammo Cans
Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:59 pm
Now that has Eric shown me a photo of the correct wing ammo cans, I understand why they are so rarely found with warbird parts dealers. These would have made handy storage cans on the surplus market so gun dealers and Army/Navy surplus shops are probably where they all went. Find the towns where Skyraiders were salvaged and start checking the military collectable shops and surplus stores.
Eric, you should post the photos of the guns when they were cut up so people can really see how much work went into making these demils look this good! They sure fooled me and I used to have a Class III FFL. Great work!
Eric, you should post the photos of the guns when they were cut up so people can really see how much work went into making these demils look this good! They sure fooled me and I used to have a Class III FFL. Great work!