About the Buchons

ChrisDNT · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 3:50 am

Hi,

I was just looking at this plastic model...

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/build ... 1523.shtml

... when I realize it could be cool now to have at least one real Buchon in its very pretty original Spanish colors, as they are now quite enough aircrafts of that type in Luftwaffe markings.

Cheers,

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 4:14 am

http://homepages.wmich.edu/~m6vader/buchon.html

hurk130 · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 5:13 am

Hey I built that!.
I hope you liked the article. One picture got slipped in there where the tail wheel cantered around backwards as I moved the plane into the frame better. I didn't notice it until the editor posted the article. I should have deleted that one. The RLM 24 blue always seemed off on the MAPI Buchon. But I have seen 15 different shades of that aircraft depending on camera/monitor setting.

It was a fun build even though I could have done better here and there.

Kel

ChrisDNT · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 6:59 am

Nice built, hurk130, and thanks Dave for the link, too bad this Buchon is not a flyer !

Speedy · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 9:33 am

ChrisDNT wrote:

Nice built, hurk130, and thanks Dave for the link, too bad this Buchon is not a flyer !

As I remember, George Enhorning had gotten that airframe...maybe from Earl Reinert's Victory Air Museum? And he had the thing rebuilt to flying condition, but after someone....Bill Harrison, perhaps...groundlooped theirs, George decided it was probably in his best interest to NOT attempt to fly it. I think George offered it to Pete and Sue Parrish "on spec" that they start an air musuem. For a long time it was in Luftwaffe colors, but I agree...it's unique to see it in the Spanish livery. There is at least one in Spain in the silver/blue colors, which looks kind of cool too.

Dave Lindauer · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 11:14 am

Somehow the firewall forward of the Buchon does not look as clunky in it's original Spanish markings. (Not that I said as clunky!) And there's no need for those awful "Battle of Britain" cowl guns.

Speedy · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 12:07 pm

Dave Lindauer wrote:

Somehow the firewall forward of the Buchon does not look as clunky in it's original Spanish markings. (Not that I said as clunky!) And there's no need for those awful "Battle of Britain" cowl guns.

You say 'clunky', I say 'sinister'.

There's something almost elegant about the smooth rounded nose of the G-model 109's. The Buchon, I think, just looks 'mean' in the Luftwaffe markings.

Dave Lindauer · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 1:32 pm

For "sinister" looks I'd go with the Jumo powered Avia S-199!

(For beauty I agree with the 109G, or better still the 109F and 109K.)

Dan K · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 8:31 pm

Speedy wrote:

...There is at least one in Spain in the silver/blue colors, which looks kind of cool too.

http://www.aviationmuseum.eu/World/Euro ... .4J-10.htm

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Isn't that one an HA-1109 or am I wrong for the second time today? I don't think this model was called a Buchon either.

Still way cool though!

JDK · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 10:25 pm

From memory, as well as the 'Zoo one in Spanish colours (note they're over Battle of Britain Film configuration) other Spanish schemed examples include - one in silver in store in the Canadian Air, Space and Infinity museum at Rockliffe, one in the Musee de air et l'espace at Le Bourget, and one in the Spanish Air Force Museum at Quatros Vientos, this example alongside the earlier Hispano-powered 109 iteration.

Paris:

Madrid:

However I don't believe I can recall any Buchons flying in preservation in Spanish colours.

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

I believe, that there should be a space between "El" and "Copero" [not ELCOPERO] since these are two separate words. It is also, the name for one of the Spanish EdA's bases [Sevilla, IIRC]

Saludos,

Tulio

Dan K · **Posted:** Sat May 21, 2011 6:42 pm

One more of the Merlin-engined example at Quatros Vientos:

http://www.aviationmuseum.eu/World/Euro ... 12-M1L.htm

hurk130 · **Posted:** Sun May 22, 2011 1:11 pm

This is the real thing I modeled. I used the decal sheet and some other references. The picture is compressed a bit but shows it as one word even though your spelling might be correct that is not what the real plane had on it.

Speedy · **Posted:** Sun May 22, 2011 5:26 pm

hurk130 wrote:

This is the real thing I modeled. I used the decal sheet and some other references. The picture is compressed a bit but shows it as one word even though your spelling might be correct that is not what the real plane had on it.

Sigh....so your model is OBVIOUSLY incorrect, since you have rockets on it and no drop tank.

Next patient, please...

Acutally, that is really cool that you have that photograph. I hadn't seen that piture before, and it seems to me that the Spaniards did not 'personalize' their aircraft very much. Nice documentation!

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