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damm

Double darn, that sucks......I've seen him fly several times over the years, he'll be missed. Condolences to his family. RIP.......

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Mike in Florida
TSgt USAF Retired
Jan 86 - Sept 08
Aircrew Life Support
"Your Life Is Our Business"
(122X0, 1T1X1, 1P0X1)
NRA Life Member

RIP

https://lmtribune.com/update-pilot-kill ... 2859d.html

A little bit ironic....P-51, F-86, Mig's, A-4, F-14, ect. ect.........
and it all ends in a copy of a Cessna...

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remember the Oogahonk!
old school enthusiast of Civiltary Warbirds and Air Racers

In flying, it’s important to be extremely cautious when getting out of your area of expertise. If you are flying an Airbus and have 5;000 it’s true you’re an expert pilot. That doesn’t mean you are an expert when you go out and buy a Stearman or whatever.
Snodgrass was the “ best darn fighter pilot there ever was. “ it’s possible that the cause of the accident will have something to do with his familiarity and “time in type” in the category and class of aircraft.

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It's equally possible that we have no idea what caused his loss. I'm sure that won't stop the armchair critics from giving us some home-spun wisdom however.

Such a sad loss. "Snort" was an incredible pilot. He will be sorely missed. My humble condolences to those affected.

While I'm at it, may I suggest. . . How 'bout if we all stop analyzing what might have happened and wait for the NTSB report to tell us what did happen? Healthy discussion based on the facts, especially pertaining to safety, is a good thing. Armchair quarterbacking and rumor-mongering are not.

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Dean Hemphill, K5DH
Port Charlotte, Florida

Happens every time there is a crash - People speculate, and guys recoil and implore to wait weeks, months or years until the official report comes out.

Let it rest, its human nature to speculate and take educated guesses. I'm leaning towards equipment failure myself but yes we shall see, I think Snort himself would certainly have an educated guess if this happened to someone else.

Not the 1st time a high performance pilot met his end in a low performance civilian craft, Scott Crossfield [X-15 pilot, among many more] was killed flying a Cessna. Gary Powers survived getting shot down at 70,000 ft in a U2 and met his end in a failed autorotation when his news chopper ran out of fuel.

I personally like speculation, its food for thought, particularly at a topic specific forum like this where just about everyone has a degree of aviation knowledge ,, Now if it was dailymail comments section or something then yeah, might well be a bit crude.

U2 = Irish pop group
U-2 = Lockheed spy plane.

Francis Gary Powers was shot down in the second one. Bono is still in the other one I think.

Media reports elsewhere, have mentioned suspected engine failure just after take-off.

Blue Skies Snort...

And to add to the speculation/guess/theory, another forum has brought the seat rail, seat rail pin, and seat back pin issues which has been a common items in Cessna crash investigations and the subject of several directives. (the Italian plane is based on Cessna design, and seems to share the same type of seat/seat pin).

I am NOT saying that is what happened here, but like any good theory it could explain a lot- or be totally off. I have been driving a car and gone to slide my seat back, and boom- back to the rail stops and my feet of the pedals and hanging onto he steering wheel. Please no pitchforks, yes I know it will be investigated. Again this is just for discussions sake, like many of us do...we wonder, we guess....we talk....

https://www.federalregister.gov/documen ... 85-188-190

I could see the seat sliding causing a take off crash. I have had a seat come loose in a 172 and it is a scary feeling. I always rocked the seat to verify that it was latched, but one time as I was taking off, I felt the seat move a little, I told the instructor to take the plane, they said I was doing fine, I said take the F*cking plane and let go of the wheel just as my seat went back. When that happens, there is nothing you can hold onto, to stop you from going back, and if you hold onto the wheel, you are going to pull the nose up and stall the plane.

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Matt Gunsch, A&P, IA, Warbird maint and restorations
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