Warbird Information Exchange

Was the student that got a "pass" a foreigner? If not what percentage are on a green card? Seems like the flight schools and maintenance schools around here are almost all alliens.

naw, he was a south side of atlanta native. I would love to know where he ended up...Jail?

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All I did was press this red button here...

Seems to me a businessman would take an interest in providing a quality product, and ensure that he put out the very best he could, thereby gaining the respect of those who use his product, and increasing the demand. Once the demand increased, he'd have people flocking to the place- and really make money, rather than putting out an inferior product nobody seems to want until the problems are fixed...

Kinda disheartening. Well, all I can do is my best with what I have to work with, and look to the next opportunity for improvement.

At least I already know how to select and use tools, manuals and materials... The school, for me, was pretty much a nice easy formality- I've been working on cars since I was 16. I had figured out by myself, and taking engines apart, exactly how they worked. Same with hydraulics- the 1988 Jag XJ-6(XJ-40) had a legitimate aircraft style hydraulics system, and I learned how it operated by tearing it down and rebuilding it as necessary... Electrical systems have been a hobby of mine since I was a kid- I am still getting the technical(laws, formulas, etc) points more or less ironed out, but the troubleshooting aspects are a breeze for me. Always have been. My latest interest is radio electronics- more or less antique stuff, but avionics is making more headway with me, and I am planning to take my GROL & RADAR endorsement tests in a few months. I look at every problem mechanically: there is a cause, and a solution. I just have to figure out the cause, to determine a solution, and everything operates the same way- "A" makes "B" happen, and if "B" ain't happening, then I have to figure out where the disconnect from "A" is... Started real early in life doing this sort of thing- earliest I can recall is somewhere around 4 being at a friend of the family's house, and building a model kit without the instructions- just using pure reasoning and logic to put together a jet airplane. Surprised heck out of my Mom when she came to find me and I had put the thing together.(And I'm sure her friend's son was surprised when he came home to find someone had built his airplane...)

Anyway- gotta go and start marinating a nice Sauerbraten for Christmas Eve Dinner at the girlfriend's sister's family get together. Should have done it yesterday, but that's how it goes...

Robbie

Enemy Ace and Inspector.......I WHOLEHEATEDLY agree with both of you here. I had the very same experience when going thru the program at Colorado Aero Tech in 1990. 75% of the guys in my class I would NEVER want to ever work with. They would always go out and smoke grass on lunch break and were just awful people.....disruptive in class, abusive, time wasters, etc. But they stayed in the program, after failing test after test, and after I complained that I didn't want to be around a bunch of dope smokers. Of course, there they were at graduation with the 25% of us who were serious and who had applied ourselves. I know I'll get lambasted for saying this, but I think all A&P schools should have a drug and alcohol testing program not only for admission, but a random program for students as well. Isn't that what we as mechanics have to submit to once we are employed?? And a background check wouldn't hurt either. I think that employing these would weed out (no pun intended) the loosers and misfits. Of course, no A&P school could stay in business ifthat were the case.... who would be left to sign up for high interest loans??

[quote="AT-6_Newbie"][quote="Enemy Ace"]I basically lost my job at Always Instructing Morons because I demanded that a student be removed from the program, if not permanently then for a month or so. Said student slept through the entire course I taught, flunked the final, then disrupted my class yelling and screaming and physically threatening me until another instructor and I could physically remove him.
I was told THE VERY NEXT DAY by THE SCHOOL DIRECTOR to let him retake the final, basically ordered to let him pass, and was told that they wouldn't flunk him out because his "money has already been paid in".
Like I said, this attitude seems to come from the top, the owner has to pay for his warbird collection somehow....
And, by the way, I was reprimanded for letting my students go into the hanger where the owners B-25 was and letting them see it. Later when it was moved to the schools hangar it was surrounded with crowd control yellow tape to keep the students from touching it while mechs that DID NOT come from that school worked on it.... [/quote]

Enemy Ace and Inspector.......I WHOLEHEATEDLY agree with both of you here. I had the very same experience when going thru the program at Colorado Aero Tech in 1990. 75% of the guys in my class I would NEVER want to ever work with. They would always go out and smoke grass on lunch break and were just awful people.....disruptive in class, abusive, time wasters, etc. But they stayed in the program, after failing test after test, and after I complained that I didn't want to be around a bunch of dope smokers. Of course, there they were at graduation with the 25% of us who were serious and who had applied ourselves. I know I'll get lambasted for saying this, but I think all A&P schools should have a drug and alcohol testing program not only for admission, but a random program for students as well. Isn't that what we as mechanics have to submit to once we are employed?? And a background check wouldn't hurt either. I think that employing these would weed out (no pun intended) the loosers and misfits. Of course, no A&P school could stay in business ifthat were the case.... who would be left to sign up for high interest loans?? [/quote]


Good informative post, Well done.

There seems to be a lack of basic mechanical skills.... At the Lazy U I once asked a group of mechanics who changed their own brakes on their cars.... The results weren't that suprising. The lower performing mechanics paid someone else to change their brakes.. You always need screw pullers for open up and close and a lube crew and you need insulation people and interiors and wash crews... Those are good jobs for the dummy mechanics and the A teamers get really bored with those jobs anyway. You would never see a interior guy doing engine run ups or working line maintenance.. So you get to sort them out in a way.. Small operations are brutal and unforgiving of sloppy maintenance so you won't see to many no mechanic left behind types there or they don't last to long.
Anyway, How come army weapons have THIS SIDE TOWARDS ENEMY on them.

Probably for the same reason you see "NO STEP" painted on aircraft. To keep people from killing those of us who were in line when the gods issued brains. Now don't you feel better that our equipment designers were thinking of you when they did their work?

Back to the topic--not that BW doesn't deserve to be included in your discussions...parameters: I'm not sure you'll be able to require students to pass a drug test unless they are receiving public funds to go to school, like ROTC. Of course, if one group of students receives the test you have to worry about bias against those who don't, or for those who don't or whatever.

It might really be better to have a national school of A&P instead of all yoru little local schools, which would fall under the FAA or something like that. Then all those rules would be not only allowed, but obligatory.

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I enjoy what I'm doing. I just want it to mean something...

Robbie

Ober, If we are going into the Space Age, and NASA for instance is looking to hire new people, what better ones than "ALLIENS". Wonder what they put for a home address.

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Sorry don't know what the PC word for someone from a foreign country going to school or working in this country is now days. President?

We have got to mow around the launch pad somehow. Anyway you should see the mess after the shuttle launches.... someone has to clean it up. IT is probably best to use expendables because it may be toxic.


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(MB)) ( Probably for the same reason you see "NO STEP" painted on aircraft. To keep people from killing those of us who were in line when the gods issued brains. )

We painted those on so the CARGO woun't damage the plane..

I got 98% on this:
http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/quizzes/M ... lAptitude/

Let's hear how you guys got on...

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Those who possess real knowledge are rare.

Those who can set that knowledge into motion in the physical world are rarer still.

The few who possess real knowledge and can set it into motion of their own hands are the rarest of all.

Bah! I got an 80%. I did okay on all the mechanical and atmpospheric and awful on the electric, but what do you expect from an anthropologist



It DOES mean something Robbie. It's sort of like being a garbageman. How many time a day do you think people rush out the front door of their homes, throw their arms around a trashman, and thank him for all of his hard work?

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"I knew the jig was up when I saw the P-51D-20-NA Mustang blue-nosed bastards from Bodney, and by the way the blue was more of a royal blue than an indigo and the inner landing gear interiors were NOT green, over Berlin."

90 I think the ropes got me.

92... I had a couple easy ones I overthunk...
Robbie