Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:38 pm
And by today's standards, those airplanes are virtually brand new.
Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:48 pm
hi moderators, i just saw the no politics rule, if my last post is deemed politics, feel free to edit/delete it. i still stand by it as a response, but if deletion is necessary for the good of the forum...
henry.
henry.
Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:34 pm
henry wrote:hi moderators, i just saw the no politics rule, if my last post is deemed politics, feel free to edit/delete it. i still stand by it as a response, but if deletion is necessary for the good of the forum...
henry.
I know I'm gonna get in trouble for this BUT...
Have you considered Henry, that were it not for our great friends in the USA - past and present - you'd very likely be speaking in Japanese and me in German?
(And I thought an O club here was a bad idea...)
Last edited by Dan Jones on Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:38 pm
Hi, I just wanted to say that Henry made some very valid points about us "Yanks" (even us southern ones!). Alot of the time we as individuals and our elected leaders as well want to "have our cake and eat it too" when it comes to relations with other countries. Having been to Canada and Oz, I can say we all have our good points and bad (as countries). The main thing is that even though we may have disagreements, at the end of the day we are still mates (just like everybody on this board!). 
Back to the main topic at hand, any new news on "Swamp Ghost" and the current state of future recovery operations in New Guinea and the surrounding area?
Cheers,
Brian
PS Truth being stranger than fiction:
One of the first songs the house band played in a club in Sydney while I was there --- "Sweet Home Alabama"... and the local crowd loved it!
Back to the main topic at hand, any new news on "Swamp Ghost" and the current state of future recovery operations in New Guinea and the surrounding area?
Cheers,
Brian
PS Truth being stranger than fiction:
One of the first songs the house band played in a club in Sydney while I was there --- "Sweet Home Alabama"... and the local crowd loved it!
Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:57 pm
A day late and a few dollars short 
Lynn
Lynn
Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:40 pm
Dan Jones beat to my comments to henry. I would not have been that nice.
Biak
Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:56 pm
Hey guys, that picture was from national geographic in the late 40s. That has been cleaned out by all the scrapees. Most of the airfield stuff which was accessable has been cleaned out.The stuff that is left is mostly japanese a/c in really bad condition on overgrown airfields. The planes that will be coming out anymore are not easily retrieved$$$$$$. The p-40s ,p-47s,p-38s that were dug up are builders and that is where the gems are. Groups are doing that now.Neat thing about those a/c is they are all combat veterans. Get your shovels guys.
Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:53 am
i'll happily accept the validity of the comments made, thanks for not giving me the response i was expecting 
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i didn't agree with the O-club either, and now i find myself stirring poo poo. ooops.
have a good one.
henry.
edit. the forums automatic editing of swear words even when not spelt out fully it an amusing function.
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i didn't agree with the O-club either, and now i find myself stirring poo poo. ooops.
have a good one.
henry.
edit. the forums automatic editing of swear words even when not spelt out fully it an amusing function.
Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:40 am
Yep, for sure there were a lot of 49 th FG Lightnings on that pic.
Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:30 am
henry wrote:
as for only USA'ers having a right to them i'm all for that, on the condition that before you claim them you take back all of your unexploded ordinance left around the world over the last 60 years, clean up your nuclear testing sites in the pacific etc, take back and clean up after all your depleated uraniun projectiles sprayed everywhere your country has fought in the last 16? years.
while your at it close your military bases on foreign soil, take back your softdrinks, fast food chains, most of your music produced in the last 30+ years, all of your big budget movies, your TV shows, your drug culture, your gun culture, all the weapons given to "friends" so they could become enemies 10 years later.
don't forget your GM food and modified seeds. make your drug companies release thier grip on drugs designed to help save people. take the conditions off your aid to 3rd world countrys.
while we are on the topic feel free to take back nearly every car produced post ww2, subsidised grains etc.
oh i almost forgot your porrnn and it's surrounding culture
do this and sure most countrys in the world would be happy for you give the rights to the WW2 stuff you left littering the world (even though it was generaly signed over to the countrys where it sat).
end rant now.
henry.
What a useless pr--k!!!
as for only USA'ers having a right to them i'm all for that, on the condition that before you claim them you take back all of your unexploded ordinance left around the world over the last 60 years, clean up your nuclear testing sites in the pacific etc, take back and clean up after all your depleated uraniun projectiles sprayed everywhere your country has fought in the last 16? years.
while your at it close your military bases on foreign soil, take back your softdrinks, fast food chains, most of your music produced in the last 30+ years, all of your big budget movies, your TV shows, your drug culture, your gun culture, all the weapons given to "friends" so they could become enemies 10 years later.
don't forget your GM food and modified seeds. make your drug companies release thier grip on drugs designed to help save people. take the conditions off your aid to 3rd world countrys.
while we are on the topic feel free to take back nearly every car produced post ww2, subsidised grains etc.
oh i almost forgot your porrnn and it's surrounding culture
do this and sure most countrys in the world would be happy for you give the rights to the WW2 stuff you left littering the world (even though it was generaly signed over to the countrys where it sat).
end rant now.
henry.
What a useless pr--k!!!
Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:55 am
Hey Guys! Please stop hijacking posts with political stuff! Get plenty of that stuff on the chuckle head shows, this is a place I like to escape to and be an Airplane Geek! This is my HAPPY PLACE! STOP F'ING WITH MY HAPPY PLACE!
Now, if your nice, I can dig up my old Airpower mags with the Luftwaffe and Japanese graveyards! Ok?
Now, if your nice, I can dig up my old Airpower mags with the Luftwaffe and Japanese graveyards! Ok?
Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:30 am
I think that the only politics we need to discuss are the ones involved in the finding and removal of warbirds and artifacts from smaller countries. A good example is the politics involved with the return of Swamp Ghost.
To echo Kudzu's earlier question:
To echo Kudzu's earlier question:
Back to the main topic at hand, any new news on "Swamp Ghost" and the current state of future recovery operations in New Guinea and the surrounding area?
Re: Biak
Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:39 am
hang the expense wrote:Get your shovels guys.
Seriously? There are some left, buried??
Where is the P-61 in the photo. I've stared at it for hours now...
Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:34 am
Has anyone gone back to these islands and dug around a bit. I have read in Air Classics about the digging in the P.I. Have they found anything?
Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:41 am
I have a photograph from an early '50s National Geographic that shows a field of B-24s on Biak in nearly intact condition with the exception of the damage to the aft fuselage that you can see in Jesse's link. The story in the magazine stated that the military simply drove a caterpillar blade into the waist area to break the backs of the a/c and moved on. As soon as I find the photo in my immense pile of stuff I'll post it.
Scott
Scott