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Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:37 am

Pain pills have me really sick this morning, so I maybe asking a stupid question.

Related to crashes, I seen the other day on YouTube, a P-38, which seems to be OD green or even darker, from right to left in the video, at a high rate of speed performing multiple alieron rolls at a super, out of control rate and then crashing in a huge fireball taking out other aircraft on the ground as well.

Does anyone know if this one?

Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:39 am

PK,
If I recall correctly, that was posted here on WIX about a year ago or so, and caused quite a stir from some of our British friends who'd seen it happen. I think it was at a European airshow...

Ryan

Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:40 am

Ok I am an idiot, here it is.

14 July 1996: Decorated former RAF squadron leader and Britannia Airways pilot Michael "Hoof" Proudfoot dies as his Lockheed P38 Lightning cartwheels and bursts into flames.

The 54-year-old had been on a low-level flypast in the vintage US World War Two plane in front of 13,000 people at the Imperial War Museum in Duxford, Cambridgeshire.



Did he have a heart attack or medical condition, that rate seems like something on the plane failed or the pilot passed out or something out of a terrible norm.

Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:42 am

RyanShort1 wrote:PK,
If I recall correctly, that was posted here on WIX about a year ago or so, and caused quite a stir from some of our British friends who'd seen it happen. I think it was at a European airshow...

Ryan


I just found the information. Sometimes YouTube can be a bad thing by stirring up memories.

Thanks man!

Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:15 am

Who was killed in the crash? :(

Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:21 am

Paul Krumrei wrote:Ok I am an idiot, here it is.

14 July 1996: Decorated former RAF squadron leader and Britannia Airways pilot Michael "Hoof" Proudfoot dies as his Lockheed P38 Lightning cartwheels and bursts into flames.

The 54-year-old had been on a low-level flypast in the vintage US World War Two plane in front of 13,000 people at the Imperial War Museum in Duxford, Cambridgeshire.



Did he have a heart attack or medical condition, that rate seems like something on the plane failed or the pilot passed out or something out of a terrible norm.


I believe the accident report concluded that the pilot's kneeboard jammed the yoke after the roll was initiated.

Steve G

Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:38 am

I understand the current owner of #97280 doesn't want pictures posted of the rebuild, but I have never seen discussion or understood if the plan is to use the pieces plus #97302 to complete 1 airplane? Or, will there be 2 planes rebuilt from the two airframes? I also heard the -4 airframe at Kissimmee years ago (abandoned new spar creation) is a factor in there somewhere. Anyone know the plans, or seen the progress out of Texas lately? I sure am looking forward to another Corsair or two (or more!).

Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:50 pm

HeII has frozen over. Not since the Aggies pulled for the Longhorns in the Rose Bowl would I ever have thought that Bill G and myself would agree on something. Yes Ladd did screw the pooch on that one and no amount of lovin will change that. Just because someone flys a multi-million dollar warbird does not make him great. To add insult to injury the fine court system put 50% of the blame on the EAA and Howard. How ridiculus is that. That cost us (EAA members, and aircraft owners millions) if not in actual dollars then in rising insurance premiums. As put so eloquintly by some great unamed pilot......"I don't know where that boy learned to fly, but from where I learned number one always takes off before number three" You got it right Lynn.

Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:45 pm

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Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:59 pm

Pointing out that a pilot screwed up doesn't imply everyone else is perfect. The NTSB ruled that he screwed up. Everybody knows he screwed up. Doesn't mean he's a bad guy. Thankfully, his screw up didn't kill anybody, and lessons were learned.

Steve G

Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:59 pm

That is why they are called accidents, not purposes.
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