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Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:04 pm

wendovertom wrote:"don't worry your name was not mentioned" raises my hackles.


I found that disagreeable and repugnant and was a blatant attempt to violate the spirit if not the letter of the "personal attack" rule. I have suspended Bill Greenwoods account for 7 days.

Re: Afgan F-15

Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:12 pm

Randy Haskin wrote:
Bill Greenwood wrote:Randy, last week there was a TV news report on civilain deaths from US bombing in Afganistan. Don't worry, your name was not mentioned. It did give a death toll, seems like 54? for a number of incidents. The last one which was detailed was of an incident where 9 civilains were killed when an F-15 or two dropped 2 1000 lb bombs on a village, (can't recall the name). The eye catching part was an interview with the Afgan president Karhzai ? in which he directly called for a cessation of U S airpower there because of the civilian deaths. My question is has the U S honored his request as far as bombing attacks on civilan targets? And cheerup, if they ground the 15s, I'm sure they'll provide you a replacement like an Osprey.


Yes, as far as I know we're regularly targeting civilians. I mean, I'm not over there anymore so I can't participate in the civilian killing blood orgy occurring currently...but I'd have to guess that the US military is up to the "business as usual" of killing babies.

That's our business, you know. We're a bunch of bloodlust-crazed maniacs who are out to blast anything that moves. It's all about the thrill of the kill.

Thanks for asking.


Randy, you are one funny sumbitch :P I got an image of Elmer fudd with his shotgun for a second there :lol:

Noooo Biiiill! Who will I have to defend the saner point of view (sometimes) for a whole week?

Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:30 pm

Obergrafeter wrote:I thought baby killing was the domain of Navy Submariner types.


Who's even talking about "Bubbleheads"?

They exist in their own catagory as having "Special Needs" and thus are not granted the same Pillaging rights as the rest of the surface fleet. :wink:


Shay
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:11 pm

To add something back on topic here...

In the late 90's when I was in the Navy our Hornets were all grounded because a Hornet on the Independence had a main mount failure on the Cat stroke. It took a few weeks to get the "failing" piece replaced fleet wide and the Navy Lawn Dart was back in the air KEEPING THE PEACE.

I'm surprised Boeing did not try and Blame it on Mac-Doug. :lol:

Tim

Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:24 pm

Was there ever a C-130 gronding with the whole wingspar deal, or was is caught in time cycles.

Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:41 pm

Sorry for the B.S. Randy.. :( .
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Re: Afgan F-15

Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:44 pm

Randy Haskin wrote:
Bill Greenwood wrote:Randy, last week there was a TV news report on civilain deaths from US bombing in Afganistan. Don't worry, your name was not mentioned. It did give a death toll, seems like 54? for a number of incidents. The last one which was detailed was of an incident where 9 civilains were killed when an F-15 or two dropped 2 1000 lb bombs on a village, (can't recall the name). The eye catching part was an interview with the Afgan president Karhzai ? in which he directly called for a cessation of U S airpower there because of the civilian deaths. My question is has the U S honored his request as far as bombing attacks on civilan targets? And cheerup, if they ground the 15s, I'm sure they'll provide you a replacement like an Osprey.


Yes, as far as I know we're regularly targeting civilians. I mean, I'm not over there anymore so I can't participate in the civilian killing blood orgy occurring currently...but I'd have to guess that the US military is up to the "business as usual" of killing babies.

That's our business, you know. We're a bunch of bloodlust-crazed maniacs who are out to blast anything that moves. It's all about the thrill of the kill.

Thanks for asking.


PERFECT! Thanks Randy! Some of us do actually appreciate the risk you are taking to help protect our freedom! 8)

Unbelievable

Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:45 pm

Greenwood, I can't believe what you wrote! I can't post here what
I'd like to but I'd sure like to talk face to face with you one day.

Most sincerely,
Owen Miller

Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:47 pm

you'll have to take a number :lol:

Re: Afgan F-15

Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:58 pm

sdennison wrote:
Randy Haskin wrote:
Bill Greenwood wrote:Randy, last week there was a TV news report on civilain deaths from US bombing in Afganistan. Don't worry, your name was not mentioned. It did give a death toll, seems like 54? for a number of incidents. The last one which was detailed was of an incident where 9 civilains were killed when an F-15 or two dropped 2 1000 lb bombs on a village, (can't recall the name). The eye catching part was an interview with the Afgan president Karhzai ? in which he directly called for a cessation of U S airpower there because of the civilian deaths. My question is has the U S honored his request as far as bombing attacks on civilan targets? And cheerup, if they ground the 15s, I'm sure they'll provide you a replacement like an Osprey.


Yes, as far as I know we're regularly targeting civilians. I mean, I'm not over there anymore so I can't participate in the civilian killing blood orgy occurring currently...but I'd have to guess that the US military is up to the "business as usual" of killing babies.

That's our business, you know. We're a bunch of bloodlust-crazed maniacs who are out to blast anything that moves. It's all about the thrill of the kill.

Thanks for asking.


PERFECT! Thanks Randy! Some of us do actually appreciate the risk you are taking to help protect our freedom! 8)


I'll second this !!! Randy....Said it before will say it again. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE and it's your service and all those that came before and will come after that keep us all free, even those whose might not respect what you are doing.

Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:02 pm

I'm disappointed, Bill.

Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:15 pm

RickH wrote:
I'm disappointed, Bill.


....but if you're like me, you weren't surprised. Something about "suffering fools".

Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:17 pm

Lots of posturing. That's all I read. :wink:

Re: Afgan F-15

Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:39 pm

Bill Greenwood wrote:Randy, last week there was a TV news report on civilain deaths from US bombing in Afganistan. Don't worry, your name was not mentioned .


I gotta say, that has to be one of the rudest comments I have even seen on the interweb.

I will never go out of my way to meet you at any airshow Bill.

Grow up and be a man someday............if you ever can.

Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:50 pm

Wow ... I'm off the 'net for a couple of days and all hey'all breaks loose ...

As somebody who knows Randy personally - not just 'virtually' - I am livid at that personal attack. Unwarranted, personally insulting, snide, and childish.

Wade
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