Recent CFM Growth

[CAPFlyer]

Read the newspaper article! I didn't say a collector the article did, but I stand by my statement about selling planes in the fleet that are not redundant.

I did read the newspaper article. It says that it's final destination is "a museum in Texas". There is not once a reference to "collector" and "Texas" in the same sentence.

[bdk]

That and then the reference to Mr. C. as "a collector in Texas" were both equally off-base, and thus my response.

So he isn't in Texas? Or he isn't a collector? What then is he doing with all those airplanes in one place?

col·lec·tion (k-lkshn)

NOUN:
1. The act or process of collecting.
2. A group of objects or works to be seen, studied, or kept together.
3. ...
4. An accumulation.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/collection

I guess I'm missing the point here. Is there some negative connotation associated with the term collector that I am not aware of?

[Obergrafeter]

I guess I have been living in a cave as I never heard that the PV-2 was for sale. Then again I have been a member for only 25 years and lots go on I never heard of. So did the Wisconsin Wing get the money?

[Steve S]

What is the plan for hte A-26- Will it be flown or static-
Steve

[CAPFlyer]

So he isn't in Texas? Or he isn't a collector? What then is he doing with all those airplanes in one place?

It was the context of the quote. The aircraft wasn't "sold to a collector" at all. It was sold to a private individual (not Mr. C) and donated to the Cavanaugh Flight Museum, so the statement was erroneous and with the second sentence, it reads as "collector" being a negative connotation. Then the third sentence is unmistakably negative towards the CAF. That's where my problem is. The statement is pure negativism or erroneous, and none of it was warranted nor supported by the newspaper article.

[Michel Lemieux]

Hello Doug, a quick one.....

Last time I visited Cavanaugh, I was told that the B25 will not be flown for a good time to come because of current "mindset" at the museum as I was told is that it makes more sense to get 2 single engine AC in the air vs the B25. Simply because of the current costs associated with flying WBs today: Insurance, maintenance, gas, etc......

Also, I remember at the time being told that the collection and the museum being sold by Mr. Cavanaugh to a 3rd private non-profit org that would take care of carrying the vision.

Not wanting to probe where it is none of my business, and please tell me so if the case, but I am curious if the mind-set is the same today ? Specifically considering the recent acquisition of 2 large twin ACs.

Safe flying & missing an update on why you like your job so much posts.

Michel.

[Bill Greenwood]

Ah'm from Texas, even if I don't live there anymore, and if I had the resources I'd be an airplane collector, same as Jim C, or Howard, or Bob Waltrip. I'd don't see anything negative about this at all, y'all. The planes are well cared for in a safe environment, some of them are flown, all are open to be seen. And best of all they do public flights in several of them. I think their price per hour for the Fury is reasonable, my budget is the only thing holding me back from making an appointment.

Guys, this time I think you were focusing too much on one phrase and not the substance of what was written. I have seen people on WIX interpret what I wrote as different from what I meant.

Finally, it is not airplanes that Jim, or Doug, or Kevin are hoarding, it is those good looking Dallas ladies, that they never seem to bring to the shows with them.

[FG1D Pilot]

Hello Doug, a quick one.....

Last time I visited Cavanaugh, I was told that the B25 will not be flown for a good time to come because of current "mindset" at the museum as I was told is that it makes more sense to get 2 single engine AC in the air vs the B25. Simply because of the current costs associated with flying WBs today: Insurance, maintenance, gas, etc......

Also, I remember at the time being told that the collection and the museum being sold by Mr. Cavanaugh to a 3rd private non-profit org that would take care of carrying the vision.

Not wanting to probe where it is none of my business, and please tell me so if the case, but I am curious if the mind-set is the same today ? Specifically considering the recent acquisition of 2 large twin ACs.

Safe flying & missing an update on why you like your job so much posts.

Michel.

That mind set must have been given to you by someone not in the know. The main reason we do not fly the B25 is that it is the original "How Boot That" and the nose art was painted by the original painter using the original paint. Mr. Cavanaugh doesn't want time and weather to affect a "Master piece". He said at the time that we could get another B25 to take to shows. I recommended to him that we find a different bomber (like the A26) to add to the museum. Mr. Cavanaugh has donated many of the aircraft owned by the museum and has loaned the rest. He hasn't "sold" any to the museum.

[Michel Lemieux]

Thank you sir for answering.

You do get different perspectives when you ask to all the proper interested parties.

The gentleman in question was a super nice elderly volunter that really took the time to show me around.

But I distinctvely remember him telling that the birds where "sold" off.

Thank you for clearing up.

Great story about the nose art. And yes....it is a masterpiece

[FG1D Pilot]

We have a great group of volunteers. Sometimes they might have to guess an answer to something they're not sure of. It's always a learning process.

[Chris]

I don't understand the negative responses at all. Everytime an aircraft gets scrapped or shoved into the corner of a museum never to fly again, there seems to be some type of outrage. Now when a "collector" or "museum" (does it really matter?) starts buying more aircraft with the intention of making them fly in due time as manpower avails itself, there are still negative comments. I think Mr Cavanaugh and his entire group should be commended for the job they do. Every aircraft I've seen that they have brought to Midland for Airsho has been superb and the crews have been very accomodating for questions and such. Kudos to CFM!!!!!

[needle]

The gentleman in question was a super nice elderly volunter

Well.......since many people would say I qualify in only 1 of the 5 categories......it means it wasn't me!

Julian

[bdk]

It was the context of the quote. The aircraft wasn't "sold to a collector" at all. It was sold to a private individual (not Mr. C) and donated to the Cavanaugh Flight Museum, so the statement was erroneous and with the second sentence, it reads as "collector" being a negative connotation. Then the third sentence is unmistakably negative towards the CAF. That's where my problem is. The statement is pure negativism or erroneous, and none of it was warranted nor supported by the newspaper article.

I'm with you now. Thanks for 'splaining that to me. Obviously Mr. O is disappointed at this turn of events with respect to the CAF. I wish there was more interest in this aircraft type. Of course the interest will develop once they are all gone. Kudos to Cavanaugh for taking this project on.

[Taylor Stevenson]

Finally, it is not airplanes that Jim, or Doug, or Kevin are hoarding, it is those good looking Dallas ladies, that they never seem to bring to the shows with them.

I'll bring you some, Bill.

[Lynn Allen]

It was the context of the quote. The aircraft wasn't "sold to a collector" at all. It was sold to a private individual (not Mr. C) and donated to the Cavanaugh Flight Museum, so the statement was erroneous and with the second sentence, it reads as "collector" being a negative connotation. Then the third sentence is unmistakably negative towards the CAF. That's where my problem is. The statement is pure negativism or erroneous, and none of it was warranted nor supported by the newspaper article.

I'm with you now. Thanks for 'splaining that to me. Obviously Mr. O is disappointed at this turn of events with respect to the CAF. I wish there was more interest in this aircraft type. Of course the interest will develop once they are all gone. Kudos to Cavanaugh for taking this project on.

Guess you have to know da "Ober"

Lynn