Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:20 pm
yes that picture was taken from a jeep... my grandfather took alot of the photos i have while driving around. nice to finally know some of the squadrons and such behind the aircraft. waiting for some others to chime in on the american planes as well. i figure why bother looking them up when we have much better and faster members here that love to do it.
Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:52 pm
Not a "Jeep"! The windscreen is all wrong.JBrawner wrote:yes that picture was taken from a jeep...
Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:55 pm
Exactly bdk. I was wondering if it were a Kubelwagen (captured car or captured photo) but it could be another US truck type.
Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:14 pm
This photo is amazing!
I have never seen the rockets like this. All you ever see are the captured or destroyed machines in place...never on their way to Huntsville.
By all means let's see more!
Thanks
I have never seen the rockets like this. All you ever see are the captured or destroyed machines in place...never on their way to Huntsville.
By all means let's see more!
Thanks
Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:18 pm
well zane your in the area , your lucky enough to see them in person if you would like. ill be at the museum next friday to get the b25 over to DFW for a small event.... so friday afternoon ill be back there. or just let me know and can bring them on a weekend.
Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:25 pm
Looks like a Burma jeep 
The photo of the Spit looks like snow too me a little early for foam 
The photo of the Spit looks like snow too me a little early for foam
Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:47 pm
HELLDIVERS wrote:The photo of the Spit looks like snow too me a little early for foam
good point, might be snow. The RAF had some sort of foam on permanent bases in 1939, IIRC, from press photos of the period, don't know about advanced airfields.
Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:17 am
The second B-17, 42-97401, isn't listed on the Baugher site - looks like the same group (398th) and squadron as the EAA's Aluminum Overcast; can anyone verify?
Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:46 pm
Nah. Burma Jeep (Ford GTB) has a latch to hold the windscreen in place, not that curved slotted deal.HELLDIVERS wrote:Looks like a Burma jeep
Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:25 am
CCKW?
After the battle
Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:18 am
Many thanks to Jon Brawner for publishing these photos. Two were immediately familiar to me as I have similar shots - numbers 2 and 9 - both featuring wrecked Typhoons. You'll have to revise your grandfathers itinerary as both photos were taken in France - not Belgium. Not only that but the photos show the same field, near Le Mesnil Tove, north-west of Mortain, where both Typhoons were shot down on 7 August 1944 during the Typhoons' famous intervention in the battle usually known as 'Mortain'.
The aircraft came down in what was no-man's land at the time; both pilots survived but Flt lt Bob Lee (in MR-R MN459, 245 Sqn) was trapped in his cockpit for 5 days and eventually was rescued by US forces clearing the battlefield. The German's had used his aircraft for target practice and he was hit in the leg (which he eventually lost I believe). The pilot of DP-A MN535 (Flt Lt A.W. 'Killy' Kilpatrick, 193 sqn) was more fortunate, but finding himself in heavy crossfire left the aircraft to hide under a German tank; the crew had seen him and he was captured. Marched to the rear he eventually persuaded his two guards to reverse course and head for Allied lines and over 9 days picked up another 25 'guards' before regaining Allied territory!
The aircraft came down in what was no-man's land at the time; both pilots survived but Flt lt Bob Lee (in MR-R MN459, 245 Sqn) was trapped in his cockpit for 5 days and eventually was rescued by US forces clearing the battlefield. The German's had used his aircraft for target practice and he was hit in the leg (which he eventually lost I believe). The pilot of DP-A MN535 (Flt Lt A.W. 'Killy' Kilpatrick, 193 sqn) was more fortunate, but finding himself in heavy crossfire left the aircraft to hide under a German tank; the crew had seen him and he was captured. Marched to the rear he eventually persuaded his two guards to reverse course and head for Allied lines and over 9 days picked up another 25 'guards' before regaining Allied territory!
Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:04 pm
Wow, what a treasure of photo's. 
The truck could be a WC-51 or WC-52. Look at the steering wheel, but windscreen hinges aren't quite right. Hm... A CCKW is more likely.
http://www.wc-52.com/gen_images.html Image 7 (second row, 1st pic).
The truck could be a WC-51 or WC-52. Look at the steering wheel, but windscreen hinges aren't quite right. Hm... A CCKW is more likely.
http://www.wc-52.com/gen_images.html Image 7 (second row, 1st pic).
Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:38 am
How many years did it take to clear the countryside of all the downed planes, tanks, etc?
Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:31 pm
63 and counting 
Steve
Steve
Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:45 pm
Steve, you mean there are planes & tanks still laying around the countryside just waiting for someone to walk up and discover them?