Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:10 am
Sean, Thank you...I was gonna suggest Tora Tora Tora...The japanese soldier was capable and often demonstrated the ruthlessness in savagery...creating many unnecessary victims...Sure there were some nice easy going Japanese back in the home land, say something bad about the emporer, and Off wit yer head... Tora Tora Tora...Back at ya in the form of a Little Fat Man dropped by and courtsey of, the Boeing B-29.
I had a Great Uncle that was a survivor of the Death March. He barely made it, laid under a murdered American Prisoner of War for hours immediatley following his escape, was stabbed in the leg he eventually lost.
I had a Great Uncle that was a survivor of the Death March. He barely made it, laid under a murdered American Prisoner of War for hours immediatley following his escape, was stabbed in the leg he eventually lost.
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Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:25 am
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his
-General George S. Patton
Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:12 am
Hey guys,
don't worry, I have seen and own Tora, Tora, Tora. A much better film. You'd expect that more recent films would be better at showing no biases, but Pearl Harbour proved that notion incorrect.
It's amazing what brainwashing can do to a nation's people during times of war. As mentioned, Japanese citizens were so thoroughly convinced to hate the Americans, the Aussies, etc that they had no problem leading death marches, and torturing POW's. The German people were brainwashed by Nazis to do terrible things as well. Part of the brainwashing is probably fear of being erased by your own government.
I also suppose if the brainwashing is done long enough the evil notions become the norm, and it would be foolish for a Japanese citizen to think that Americans weren't bad people, or for a German citizen to think that Jewish people shouldn't be eliminated.
On a final note, some of the nicest people I've ever met are either German, Japanese, or Iranian. Go figure.
Cheers,
David
don't worry, I have seen and own Tora, Tora, Tora. A much better film. You'd expect that more recent films would be better at showing no biases, but Pearl Harbour proved that notion incorrect.
It's amazing what brainwashing can do to a nation's people during times of war. As mentioned, Japanese citizens were so thoroughly convinced to hate the Americans, the Aussies, etc that they had no problem leading death marches, and torturing POW's. The German people were brainwashed by Nazis to do terrible things as well. Part of the brainwashing is probably fear of being erased by your own government.
I also suppose if the brainwashing is done long enough the evil notions become the norm, and it would be foolish for a Japanese citizen to think that Americans weren't bad people, or for a German citizen to think that Jewish people shouldn't be eliminated.
On a final note, some of the nicest people I've ever met are either German, Japanese, or Iranian. Go figure.
Cheers,
David
simple..you get some un-educated folks together---
Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:26 pm
Sean Curtiss wrote:I never could quite get what kind of fanatism leads a person to sacrifice his life to honor himself, his country and especially the Japanese to his emperor. I’m not talking about bravery, like most of allied troops did in all wars. Omaha beach is, for instance, one example. That is what I call the utmost bravery. I know this is a cultural thing and blah-blah-blah, but to volunteer to a mission you know will be your last one is, for me, pure stupidity. No wonder the Geneva Convention ever existed to allied POW in Japanese prison camps. If most of them honored who ever by committing Seppuku so why didn’t the soldiers they captured do the same. Since they didn’t, why treat them like human beings? Worst yet was what the Chinese people suffered in the hands of Japan, but that is another story…
And David, instead of Pearl Harbor, rent "Tora, Tora, Tora".
then you stir in some religion and false hopes and promises. then you tell them who is to blame for your current condition, and viola you have a terro...er.uh... kamakizi!
Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:20 pm
n5151ts....Right On
Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:00 pm
mustangdriver wrote:"Japan was a victim not the aggressor" Gimmee a f#$%'n break.
You've taken the quote completely out of context that wasn't was said at all.
"Some critics say its an effort to re-cast Japanese thinking about the war in which it was the victim, not the aggressor."
The director himself stated in the clip that doesn't intend to "make a film that distorts historical facts, the truth."
"I have no intenion of glorfying Kamikaze pilots."