Sat May 17, 2008 10:43 pm
Went in today to see some people I haven't seen recently while I was up at college, and being a few minutes down the road it never hurts to go in. Turns out I was rewarded for my visit. I had thought I heard a throaty radial roar earlier in the day, turns out I was right!
Apparently it's going to be hangared at the museum temporarily to make it easier to access some scheduled events. Nice surprise eh!
I had never been close enough to an Avenger with few enough people around to notice the wing folding mechanism before. I was surprised at how small the actuator seems to be, would have expected something a little beefier for such a massive wing!
Also this is a picture of the museum's new Stearman, C-GPTD, I meant to take more pictures of it but got side tracked. I'll be there tomorrow so I'll try and get some better pictures.
Just a reminder to everyone that Flyfest 2008 will be on Father's Day weekend, should be an exciting weekend, things are changing there literally on a daily basis. After several years of being relatively dormant the museum is actively playing a part in the Warbird movement (not that it was ever uninvolved, but you know what I mean).
Apparently it's going to be hangared at the museum temporarily to make it easier to access some scheduled events. Nice surprise eh!
I had never been close enough to an Avenger with few enough people around to notice the wing folding mechanism before. I was surprised at how small the actuator seems to be, would have expected something a little beefier for such a massive wing!
Also this is a picture of the museum's new Stearman, C-GPTD, I meant to take more pictures of it but got side tracked. I'll be there tomorrow so I'll try and get some better pictures.
Just a reminder to everyone that Flyfest 2008 will be on Father's Day weekend, should be an exciting weekend, things are changing there literally on a daily basis. After several years of being relatively dormant the museum is actively playing a part in the Warbird movement (not that it was ever uninvolved, but you know what I mean).
Mon May 19, 2008 11:27 am
As promised here's some more CWH Pictures.
First, a couple more shots of the Avenger, what a big, beautiful bird!
Next, the new Stearman, C-GPTD, donated by Bill Koyle, a member of the Board of Directors at CWH.
In other news, our Dak is about ready to fly. Over the winter she was repainted, same colours, just revamped a little.
Our old faithful Stearman C-FAIU is sitting in the corner, ready to take new and old members up, along with Harvard C-FVMG. Also, after the success of using other aircraft for member's flights you can now purchase a membership and get a flight in the Tiger Moth, Chipmunk, Cornell, B-25, PBY, or Lancaster. Check http://www.warplane.com/pages/membership.html for more info.
Rejoining the collection this year is DeHavilland Chipmunk C-FPOW, RCAF 035. This Chippie had been with the museum for a very long period of time, after being donated by one of the museum Founders, John "Scruffy" Weir. It was sold a few years ago, and is now back in the collection. This plane is very special to me becasue it was the first CWH Aircraft I ever flew in.
First, a couple more shots of the Avenger, what a big, beautiful bird!
Next, the new Stearman, C-GPTD, donated by Bill Koyle, a member of the Board of Directors at CWH.
In other news, our Dak is about ready to fly. Over the winter she was repainted, same colours, just revamped a little.
Our old faithful Stearman C-FAIU is sitting in the corner, ready to take new and old members up, along with Harvard C-FVMG. Also, after the success of using other aircraft for member's flights you can now purchase a membership and get a flight in the Tiger Moth, Chipmunk, Cornell, B-25, PBY, or Lancaster. Check http://www.warplane.com/pages/membership.html for more info.
Rejoining the collection this year is DeHavilland Chipmunk C-FPOW, RCAF 035. This Chippie had been with the museum for a very long period of time, after being donated by one of the museum Founders, John "Scruffy" Weir. It was sold a few years ago, and is now back in the collection. This plane is very special to me becasue it was the first CWH Aircraft I ever flew in.
Mon May 19, 2008 12:43 pm
It is nice to see POW back. Now about that Avenger...someone get some blue paint and some roundels... 
Jim
Jim
Mon May 19, 2008 1:07 pm
Greg87 wrote:I had never been close enough to an Avenger with few enough people around to notice the wing folding mechanism before. I was surprised at how small the actuator seems to be, would have expected something a little beefier for such a massive wing!
It isn't the size of the actuators that count. The Wildcat and Hellcat don't have a hyd folding mechanism, it is manual.
The wing's strength come from the size of the pivot hardware which bolt the inner and outer wings together and the locking pin which holds the wing in place once extended. The hyd actuators don't serve any structural function once the wings are extended.
Rich
Mon May 19, 2008 1:43 pm
someone get some blue paint and some roundels...
Haha, the interm Director of Maintenance who was with the museum back when CWH had an Avenger said that "if it happens to be blue and have roundels on it when it leaves theres nothing I can do about it!"
It isn't the size of the actuators that count. The Wildcat and Hellcat don't have a hyd folding mechanism, it is manual.
The wing's strength come from the size of the pivot hardware which bolt the inner and outer wings together and the locking pin which holds the wing in place once extended. The hyd actuators don't serve any structural function once the wings are extended.
Rich
Thank you, makes sense. How does the wing move in more than one direction when it's folding? I'm refering to the way it swings out and rotates at the same time. Is the actuator mounted in a bearing or something that allows it to turn?
We were saying yesterday that since we have the Sea Fury, Firefly, Tracker and Avenger in the hangar, all with folding wings, now we have to convert the PBY so it can have folding wings like all the other naval aircraft in the hangar. Could you imagine what that would look like!
Mon May 19, 2008 3:18 pm
It's good to see the Dak with a fresh coat of paint. Looks sharp!
Mon May 19, 2008 3:21 pm
I agree, it looks pretty good, especially considering the fact it was painted with rollers!
Mon May 19, 2008 3:24 pm
Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone know what events Ida Red is supposed to be attending?
Mon May 19, 2008 3:52 pm
It is a simple hinge like on a door in your house, only the axis of the hinge pin is not vertical. It doesn't "swing out" at all.Greg87 wrote:How does the wing move in more than one direction when it's folding? I'm refering to the way it swings out and rotates at the same time. Is the actuator mounted in a bearing or something that allows it to turn?
Most actuators have bearings at either end as you don't want the actuator rod to be put in bending, you want it to be in tension and compression only.
The reason they use two actuators is that the actuator stroke would be too long for one actuator and the rod would buckle under load. It is like mounting two actuators in series. The shorter actuator rods are stiffer.
Mon May 19, 2008 5:05 pm
Hi all,
The TBM arrived at 1122 Saturday morning. It will be at CWH for about 2 months. (all subject to change of course.) I will admit to attending the Russell group show fathers day weekend. Other than that................
I had to promise brothers Dave and Larry Tinker (the owners) that it would be returned to them in the white and Grey scheme it is currently in. I know there have been recent attempts to give it a new coat of glossy blue, but these attempts have so far been fought off. Richard, the PBY crew chief did notice that the TBM and the PBY are painted the same colours so we have some help fighting off the "blue".
Fly safe,
Glenn
The TBM arrived at 1122 Saturday morning. It will be at CWH for about 2 months. (all subject to change of course.) I will admit to attending the Russell group show fathers day weekend. Other than that................
I had to promise brothers Dave and Larry Tinker (the owners) that it would be returned to them in the white and Grey scheme it is currently in. I know there have been recent attempts to give it a new coat of glossy blue, but these attempts have so far been fought off. Richard, the PBY crew chief did notice that the TBM and the PBY are painted the same colours so we have some help fighting off the "blue".
Fly safe,
Glenn
Mon May 19, 2008 8:09 pm
The Dak looks amazing!
One thing I always wondered about the CWH bird is that it is a true DC-3 with the old Wright Cyclone engines. Were there ever actually any RCAF or RAF Dakotas with the Cyclone engine instead of the Pratt 1830s?
One thing I always wondered about the CWH bird is that it is a true DC-3 with the old Wright Cyclone engines. Were there ever actually any RCAF or RAF Dakotas with the Cyclone engine instead of the Pratt 1830s?
Tue May 20, 2008 8:18 pm
visaliaaviation wrote:
Helped (??) my father do some work on a Ford (Kermit's?)at Erve Perliches' place, in Morgan Hill, CA. That had to be about 1965-66. He was doing an annual getting her ready for Watsonville. Later, at the fly in, I and a buddy got a ride for free because the lady taking the tickets was an old family friend! My recollection it was akin to placing a garbage can over one's head and continually banging it with a multitude of hammers!
Irv Perlitch passed away just a couple of weeks ago:
http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news/242 ... under-dies
http://www.mercurynews.com/obituaries/ci_9191182
Wed May 21, 2008 7:42 pm
Guys ...Thanks for sharing some really nice photographs at CWHM and great to see quite a few visiting aircraft. I look forward to seeing the TBM at CWHM or at Russel Group events next month...
Keep em flying...
Andrew
Keep em flying...
Andrew
Thu May 22, 2008 6:14 am
What a treat to see Ida Red at the CWH as well as having POW back in the museum. Looks like we are set for another great Father’s Day weekend.
Eric
Eric
Thu May 22, 2008 7:36 am
It certainly looks like CWH is getting back into the flying mode again. 
They still have 20+ aircraft with current civil regn’s is there any chance we will ever see CF-HOT Avro Anson V fly again. I remember reading she was grounded some time ago due to wood delaminating issues?
Andrew
They still have 20+ aircraft with current civil regn’s is there any chance we will ever see CF-HOT Avro Anson V fly again. I remember reading she was grounded some time ago due to wood delaminating issues?
Andrew