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Wed May 21, 2008 12:33 am
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Wed May 21, 2008 12:42 am
ALK,
The first year of M20E production was '64, and they have the curved rear passenger windows. You are correct about the '65 being the first year with the rectangular windows. Here is our example of a '64 "E":
Matt, Ellen got a kick out of your list of Mooney traits! (She gets to close panels for me from time to time.)
Scott
Wed May 21, 2008 1:19 am
In the pic I can't see a prop, so it has to be a jet. I also think its an amphibian, possibly Pan Am flew it across the Pacific in the 1930s. This airplane was also used in the upcoming Indiana Jones movie too.
I think I pretty well covered it.. Oh I forgot to describe it as a "Piper Cub"
Sorry missed that one.......
Mark H
Wed May 21, 2008 4:52 am
FutureCorsairOwner wrote:They had been trying to keep a low profile through the test program.
Cant get much lower than that!
Wed May 21, 2008 5:31 am
krlang wrote:Cant get much lower than that!
I wonder that Snort was flying it?
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Gary
Wed May 21, 2008 7:11 am
Glad to see everyon bitching about the ignorant liberal news media. The very concept of and continued promotion of a proud detail oriented heritage is at stake. We gotta hold their feet to the fire for more accurate reporting and coverage of aviation in general and warbirds inparticular! Those non-anal morons even missed the quite obvious and most important fact of all, namely that it was a "razorback" Mooney!
Wed May 21, 2008 9:58 am
ALK wrote:
What should concern you is that while we know when they are wrong about aviation, how do we ever know they are right about subjects we don't know ourselves.
Now that just struck me as a wonderfully constructed sentence. Nicely done
Mudge the dialectician and grammarian
Wed May 21, 2008 12:38 pm
As bad as they are (especially regarding aviation) what worries me more than the ignorant media is the ignorance of the general populace.
The media caters to their largest audience so go figure.
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Wed May 21, 2008 3:36 pm
retroaviation wrote:krlang wrote:Cant get much lower than that!
I wonder that Snort was flying it?
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Gary
Nope, it was Bob Hoover.
Ooops, wrong thread, never mind!
Wed May 21, 2008 3:43 pm
visaliaaviation wrote: Those non-anal morons even missed the quite obvious and most important fact of all, namely that it was a "razorback" Mooney!
Now, we all know that Mooney's were never referred to as "razorbacks" during the war. It wasn't until later when historians started using the term.
The proper descripter should be "birdcage Mooney". This is of course, from when the Japanese used the Mooney as a jet fighter during the Korean War. They even got the Japanese markings all wrong for the period. Everyone knows that the the cowl should be checkerboarded!
I hear this Mooney is a Pearl Harbor veteran also. She was one of the few to survive the attack on the USS Enterprise.
Wed May 21, 2008 4:57 pm
The proper descripter should be "birdcage Mooney". This is of course, from when the Japanese used the Mooney as a jet fighter during the Korean War. They even got the Japanese markings all wrong for the period. Everyone knows that the the cowl should be checkerboarded!
That is good

Some kid will read your post and put it in his book report now.
I just uttered 'birdcage mooney' out loud and it made me laugh. I'll bet you can't do it without laughing either.
Wed May 21, 2008 5:49 pm
PinecastleAAF wrote:I just uttered 'birdcage mooney' out loud and it made me laugh. I'll bet you can't do it without laughing either.

Yep, that is funny!
Here's another one. Can you say "Sea Mooney"? That is the navalized one with folding wings. You have to be careful when you land it on the flattops as the arrester hook can rip the funny tail off, if you're not careful!
And of course, there's the version that is in the Smithsonian at Silver Hill in storage. A famous actresses's father named it. It reputedly flew Douglas MacArthur out of Berlin during the Berlin airlift during Viet Nam. It was called the "Swooney Mooney". Rumor is that the Air Force Museum will trade it for the Sharkfin Mooney that's in storage.
Hahaha!
Wed May 21, 2008 6:18 pm
How about the famous MR MOONEY that Desi Arnez flew during the Bay of Pigs
Wed May 21, 2008 7:03 pm
I know Sea Mooney you speak of. Those were used by the Iranians and it is now illegal to own parts or aircraft. If you have a Mooney with the swing wing it might be confiscated so be careful.
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Wed May 21, 2008 7:43 pm
I cringe whenever the word "experimental" is used, because it seems to imply that the plane shouldn't even be flying in the first place, or that it was being tested..."Experimental plane crashes." You've seen it. They wear lab coats when they fly those things, don't they?
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