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Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:53 am

They don't look like Dzus fastener from inside do they - looks more like a nutplate

Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:56 pm

drgondog,

I studied the turret dome when I got to the hangar this morning. For once, I was correct about a guess I made. :lol: Here are a couple of photos to confirm that the little windows are Dzused in.
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I still haven't found an armaments manual to tell me what operations were performed through the openings.

Scott

Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:52 pm

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Serial # 42-97061

My grandfather was the Ball Turret gunner in a 91st bomb group B-17G!

See the shortest person in the shot? Makes sense, he was the one that crammed himself into the sphere. Very brave man to be a B-17 gunner of Germany, especially since he was Jewish. With a name like Harold Lieberman on his dogtags he couldn't hide it either!

Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:40 pm

no mistake with the close up - good eyes

Re: B-17Gs 91st BG 8th AF

Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:16 am

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Interesting comparison with crew clothing. I guess the top one was maybe taken in winter late in the war, with most of the crew wearing B-10 jackets, but with at least one B-15 in the group.

Bottom one maybe a fresh crew from stateside, taken in summertime with all wearing nice fresh and supple looking A-2 leather jackets.
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