Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:06 pm
i SAW A SHOW AWHILE BACK AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE rUSSIANS SENDING BALLOONS OVER THE usa COLLECTING DATA AND WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT UNTIL ONE WAS RECOVERED(darn caps!) This supposedly explained a bunch of sightings during that time. Seems that a baloon a 70k ft shows up very well at night. go figger!
Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:15 pm
I saw a UFO once... and then I described it to someone in aviation and they showed me a picture of the Beechcraft Starship... and there in that picture was my UFO! 
My guess is most sightings are military projects, just look at all the sightings that turn out to be the B-2, or the SR-71 many years ago.
Once, I happened to be channel surfing and saw a show where there was a guy theorizing that UFOs are actually time machines from the future and that "we" are obeserving "our" past civilizations. And that really only made me thing of Doc Brown..."Where we're going, we don't need roads"
My guess is most sightings are military projects, just look at all the sightings that turn out to be the B-2, or the SR-71 many years ago.
Once, I happened to be channel surfing and saw a show where there was a guy theorizing that UFOs are actually time machines from the future and that "we" are obeserving "our" past civilizations. And that really only made me thing of Doc Brown..."Where we're going, we don't need roads"
high
Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:35 pm
Versatile, 70,000 feet is 13 1/4 miles high! It is hard to believe anyone could see a balloon that far up, especaily at night.
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Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:48 am
As I posted back in January:
there was an article in a late '50s issue of Reader's Digest that featured an "official" statement to the effect of "Don't worry about those UFO sightings - they're a wonderful new invention that the government is going to reveal to everybody soon..."
We're still waiting...
Re: Canada
Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:10 am
Bill Greenwood wrote:JDK, I am corrected, AVRO was in Canada not UK as I assumed.
No problem Bill. That's how they travel faster than light - one minute they are in 'England' the next, 'Canada'!
Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:59 am
great topic!
I was contacted by a lady whose great uncle "made" a UFO. He and a buddy took the time and parts out of a broken jukebox, crafted a big disk and then, covertly, created a "crash site" in the neighbor lady's vegetable garden!
This got EVERYONE'S attention - the street was cordoned off, the USAF sent investigators and they carefully packed it up and carried it away to Hill AFB and told everyone not to worry or ask questions. All this occurred in the early 50's as I recall.
She contacted me because they were trying to see if the creation still existed and someone somewhere told her that the thing had been taken to Wendover - she was hoping it was in our museum. Boy would that be a cool thing to have on display!
Tom P.
I was contacted by a lady whose great uncle "made" a UFO. He and a buddy took the time and parts out of a broken jukebox, crafted a big disk and then, covertly, created a "crash site" in the neighbor lady's vegetable garden!
This got EVERYONE'S attention - the street was cordoned off, the USAF sent investigators and they carefully packed it up and carried it away to Hill AFB and told everyone not to worry or ask questions. All this occurred in the early 50's as I recall.
She contacted me because they were trying to see if the creation still existed and someone somewhere told her that the thing had been taken to Wendover - she was hoping it was in our museum. Boy would that be a cool thing to have on display!
Tom P.
Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:26 am
I hear an Alien and UFO have been sighted in the Boulder, CO. area!!!!!!! Shazbot
Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:37 am
Martin
Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:30 am
Bluedharma wrote:If you had seen this 20 years ago... what would you have thought?
Not even that long ago....
A few years back they flew a B2 over the Northrop plant at Hawthorn & the local police received something like 400 calls about a UFO....
Blueharma
Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:53 am
Blueharma, If I saw that high altitude silouette, especaily with the contrails, I would have thought some kind of plane.
The sightings that often remain Unidentified, I don't think have obvious jet contrails. Also the most puzzling ones seem to be when something is seen by many people from different places, perhaps even on radar, and it doesn't behave like a normal plane. It may be reported as being able to hover, then speed off very fast and/or make right angle turns all silently. I am not an expert in the UFO field, but as I recall the sightings often mention that the object did not make noise, even at low altitude. Anyone who was at Oshkosh can tell you a Harrier is far from silent, especially in hover.
The sightings that often remain Unidentified, I don't think have obvious jet contrails. Also the most puzzling ones seem to be when something is seen by many people from different places, perhaps even on radar, and it doesn't behave like a normal plane. It may be reported as being able to hover, then speed off very fast and/or make right angle turns all silently. I am not an expert in the UFO field, but as I recall the sightings often mention that the object did not make noise, even at low altitude. Anyone who was at Oshkosh can tell you a Harrier is far from silent, especially in hover.
Re: Blueharma
Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:31 pm
Bill Greenwood wrote:Blueharma, If I saw that high altitude silouette, especaily with the contrails, I would have thought some kind of plane.
Bill you are right... but not everyone is as wise...
Bluedharma wrote:People do see stuff. People just don't always understand what they are seeing.
I saw this once fly over with no sound... really high...
Person with me said look a UFO. Jets don't look like that!
see link...
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=180305#180305
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Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:07 pm
mike furline wrote:I hear an Alien and UFO have been sighted in the Boulder, CO. area!!!!!!! Shazbot
In that case UFO = Unsightly Frock Owner.
August
Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:47 pm
Martin, that chart was really funny 
Personally, I like to think that any sufficiently advanced civilization capable of traveling hundreds of light years to Earth would appreciate the value of a go-around if the landing wasn't looking good. I imagine that they would have something better to do than hack up the livestock and vandalize corn fields once they landed, too.
And what's with all the probing? Is this planet on the Uranus Institute of Proctology's final exam study list or something?
The whole UFO thing seems far fetched to me. It's not that I discount the possibility of extraterrestials...I just think that the first sign of an alien encounter would be a bit less like E.T. happily munching Reeses Pieces and a bit more like like Montezuema exclaiming "Oh, crap, another ship full of Conquistadors!"
Personally, I like to think that any sufficiently advanced civilization capable of traveling hundreds of light years to Earth would appreciate the value of a go-around if the landing wasn't looking good. I imagine that they would have something better to do than hack up the livestock and vandalize corn fields once they landed, too.
And what's with all the probing? Is this planet on the Uranus Institute of Proctology's final exam study list or something?
The whole UFO thing seems far fetched to me. It's not that I discount the possibility of extraterrestials...I just think that the first sign of an alien encounter would be a bit less like E.T. happily munching Reeses Pieces and a bit more like like Montezuema exclaiming "Oh, crap, another ship full of Conquistadors!"
Re: high
Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:32 am
Bill Greenwood wrote:Versatile, 70,000 feet is 13 1/4 miles high! It is hard to believe anyone could see a balloon that far up, especaily at night.
I am a pilot for a UAV company. We use weather balloons to take the plane up to heights greater than 70K.....I can assure you that it is visible to the naked eye at that altitude during daylight. The envelope glows very brightly.
Not sure about night...we've got some night ops coming up, I'll let you know. Maybe with a full moon?
Red