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That is the third I have seen,
We saw one go by at Sun-n-Fun in 2000
I saw one at the air museum in Liberal, KS

They were a mod, kind of like a twin bee, werent they?

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That is the third I have seen,
We saw one go by at Sun-n-Fun in 2000
I saw one at the air museum in Liberal, KS

They were a mod, kind of like a twin bee, werent they?


Yup. There was a TEMCO, a Riley, and a 3rd one whose name escapes me.


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Excellent Photographs Spooky......You got some great shots of some rare birds in flight.

Ain't Air to Air Photography a blast. My next one is scheduled to be from the Sea Fury.

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How far out did these flights go? I was in Rochester (between centralia and Olympia) and saw two aircraft doing a pretty fast formation flight heading S/SW toward the Aberdeen area and apparently circling to the North of NW. Was that you guys, or maybe a flight from OFM? I swear it sounded like a Mustang but from that distance I could tell for sure form the sound or the outlines of the two airplanes...

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IIRC that twin Navion was sporting civies earlier this summer. Must be a new paint job.

My question is, did the military actually use any?

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How far out did these flights go? I was in Rochester (between centralia and Olympia) and saw two aircraft doing a pretty fast formation flight heading S/SW toward the Aberdeen area and apparently circling to the North of NW. Was that you guys, or maybe a flight from OFM? I swear it sounded like a Mustang but from that distance I could tell for sure form the sound or the outlines of the two airplanes...


We stuck around Everett and were pretty slow. It could've been John Sessions P-51's as they took off and were out for a while.

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No OFM flights today, though I did see Dimmer's T-6 take off.

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krlang wrote:
That is the third I have seen,
We saw one go by at Sun-n-Fun in 2000
I saw one at the air museum in Liberal, KS

They were a mod, kind of like a twin bee, werent they?


Yup. There was a TEMCO, a Riley, and a 3rd one whose name escapes me.


Camair Twin Navion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camair_Twin_Navion

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Curtis Block wrote:
IIRC that twin Navion was sporting civies earlier this summer. Must be a new paint job.

My question is, did the military actually use any?


This is a list of L-17's that exist today. There were no twin Navions used by the US armed services.

http://www.warbird.org/L-17/registry.htm

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Randy Haskin wrote:
krlang wrote:
That is the third I have seen,
We saw one go by at Sun-n-Fun in 2000
I saw one at the air museum in Liberal, KS

They were a mod, kind of like a twin bee, werent they?


Yup. There was a TEMCO, a Riley, and a 3rd one whose name escapes me.


Camair Twin Navion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camair_Twin_Navion




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Great Picture's, look's like a nice day up there , is it cold someone was wearing gloves?


I got an email from Dave (pilot) and here's what he says about the gloves.

I wear those gloves because they are fireproof Nomex. If we had a fuel or hydraulic fire in the cockpit, I could reach through the flames to get the extinguisher, the seat belt release, or the canopy handle. Guys have burned to death in an otherwise survivable accident because they could not reach through the fire to extracate themselves.

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IIRC that twin Navion was sporting civies earlier this summer. Must be a new paint job.

My question is, did the military actually use any?


An answer from Dave

True, Twin Navions never served on active duty, but some (at least one) DID serve in Vietnam with Air America

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kenlyco wrote:
Great Picture's, look's like a nice day up there , is it cold someone was wearing gloves?


I got an email from Dave (pilot) and here's what he says about the gloves.

I wear those gloves because they are fireproof Nomex. If we had a fuel or hydraulic fire in the cockpit, I could reach through the flames to get the extinguisher, the seat belt release, or the canopy handle. Guys have burned to death in an otherwise survivable accident because they could not reach through the fire to extracate themselves.


FWIW, Nomex is not 'fireproof'. The gloves, along with other Nomex flying gear, is designed for short-term protection against flash fires, as might be caused by pure oxygen or fuel vapor.


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