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Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:32 am

Shipping it by boat is no guarantee it will arrive safely. Unofficial sources estimate 2,000 to 10,000 containers a year are lost overboard.

http://www.marin.nl/web/show/id=77641/contentid=710

Les

Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:16 pm

Beware the Somali Pirates! They may add it to their force of T72 MBT's. :shock:

Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:40 pm

BigGrey wrote:Shipping it by boat is no guarantee it will arrive safely. Unofficial sources estimate 2,000 to 10,000 containers a year are lost overboard.

http://www.marin.nl/web/show/id=77641/contentid=710

Les

Insurance typically requires aircraft be shipped below deck on a boat.
Falling off isn't a problem there.
The wild drivers of the cranes are who I worry about. Nearly had a P-38 dropped on me by the driver. There are gaps between the containers and the walls of the hold big enough to fall into. I didn't know whether to jump 50" down or get squished. Luckily the NASCAR driver running the crane stopped the swinging of the P-38 and it was lowered into the hold.
Rich

Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:17 pm

51fixer wrote:
BigGrey wrote:Shipping it by boat is no guarantee it will arrive safely. Unofficial sources estimate 2,000 to 10,000 containers a year are lost overboard.

http://www.marin.nl/web/show/id=77641/contentid=710

Les

Insurance typically requires aircraft be shipped below deck on a boat.
Falling off isn't a problem there.
The wild drivers of the cranes are who I worry about. Nearly had a P-38 dropped on me by the driver. There are gaps between the containers and the walls of the hold big enough to fall into. I didn't know whether to jump 50" down or get squished. Luckily the NASCAR driver running the crane stopped the swinging of the P-38 and it was lowered into the hold.
Rich


Rich, I agree the biggest danger is the crane operator. They are under huge pressure to move as many units as fast as they can. I have spent plenty of time on the docks and seen several incidents. I have also seen the results of bulk and container ships encountering rough seas or typhoons. The cargo wasn't real pretty afterwards.

Flying the plane or shipping it carries risks either way. The owner gets the fun of making the decision. :)

Les

Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:42 pm

BigGrey wrote:
51fixer wrote:
BigGrey wrote:Shipping it by boat is no guarantee it will arrive safely. Unofficial sources estimate 2,000 to 10,000 containers a year are lost overboard.

http://www.marin.nl/web/show/id=77641/contentid=710

Les

Insurance typically requires aircraft be shipped below deck on a boat.
Falling off isn't a problem there.
The wild drivers of the cranes are who I worry about. Nearly had a P-38 dropped on me by the driver. There are gaps between the containers and the walls of the hold big enough to fall into. I didn't know whether to jump 50" down or get squished. Luckily the NASCAR driver running the crane stopped the swinging of the P-38 and it was lowered into the hold.
Rich


Rich, I agree the biggest danger is the crane operator. They are under huge pressure to move as many units as fast as they can. I have spent plenty of time on the docks and seen several incidents. I have also seen the results of bulk and container ships encountering rough seas or typhoons. The cargo wasn't real pretty afterwards.

Flying the plane or shipping it carries risks either way. The owner gets the fun of making the decision. :)

Les



Why dont someone just 'beam' it to Australia.....beam me up scotty! :lol: :roll:

Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:22 pm

what's cooking??? we need the wix national enquirer!!! :wink:

Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:07 pm

Actually guys, I'm guessing it's the A-20 that was at Lonestar.

?????

Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:32 pm

The A-20 is going has cargo and Steve Stearle's webpage indicates the same for the B-25. Don't know about the others he bought.
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