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Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:33 am

Nice suggestion about Artur Bentley. In this way i use Russian source drawings, no need to remind that they are captured, evaluated and make detail technical material about the every plane they get. Beleive or not, for a years best technical drawings for P-39 was made in former USSR.

Cheers :P

Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:55 am

the 129's cockpit was so small the pilot had to practically be shoe horned to get into it with all his gear. i doubt they wore parachutes to, as to low to ground fighting, & trying to cram a chute in their as well was a feat i'm sure. note the instrument mounted forward of the windscreen........ there was simply no room to accommodate it in the cockpit.

Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:35 am

Thats right Tom and I am wonedr how they did not make some 30 cm more space behind and they will get more room for pilot. Anyway even in glider, which is much smaller, pilot have more space.

Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:41 pm

tom d. friedman wrote:jager marty your avatar pic is hilarious!! :lol:


Thanks mate :)

Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:32 pm

I would like to thank you all who have help me in this search and special thanks to all those who have contact me in private and provide me some invaluable reference material :P

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Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:42 pm

Mgawa wrote:I would like to thank you all who have help me in this search and special thanks to all those who have contact me in private and provide me some invaluable reference material :P

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Awesome! You are very talented Mgawa! I like your illustrations.

Are there any remnants or remains of Luftwaffe aircraft there in any parts of the former Yugoslavia? I've always thought that the freshwater lakes there would be a treasure trove of warbirds.

Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:51 pm

In former Yugoslavia was some 200 crash sites located. On many places airplanes or their remains are still there. I am from Krusevac, town in the centre of Serbia, and in the '90 was was on the mountain in close, Jastrebac, to look for the remains of the US fighter P-38 which few down there. To regret we did not find crash place but we have talk with some older persons who have visioted the grave of its pilot with school group. US fight over my country and to regret many planes crash there. Crew which balled out was in many cases rescued by Tito's partisans as well Nationalish forces led by Draza Mihailovic [wrongly called chetnics]. Sad to say that some was captured by some bandits, like the units of Kosta Pecanac and brutally murdered. Still remember one court trial in the '80 when one former member of this formation, Vojislav Rajicic- Pozarevac, confes many of the crimes including of slayer of two US pilots. He sad that he bring them close to the river bank and he chosse to butch with knife a taller pilot. For its crime he was charged as guilty and shoot dead by the Yugoslav officials in the early '80.

Thank you very much for your compliments :) I keep you all updated with my work.

Cheers :P

Hs129

Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:43 pm

The surviving cockpit section is in a garage about five houses from my place. As to building a replica, the cockpit section itself was manufactured from steel about 12mm thick. Been told by George Tischler that Henschel used boilermakers and locomotive makers to manufacture the cockpit.

Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:50 pm

i'm moving in...... there goes the neighborhood
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