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What mustang is 44-73489 ?? is it still with us ??
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Sadly, no. This is NL51JL and crashed fatally in '84 killing pilot Jack Levine.

http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/p51who/301.shtml


I didn't know that, I thought I'd heard that it burned in a hangar fire. It was somewhat "famous" in the early '80s as the subject of a Champion Spark plug magazine ad (we always referred to it as the "Champion" Mustang). It was also one of the first bare-metal Mustangs. I thought it looked awesome. I never saw it fly, though. Just on static at Oshkosh.

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Very likely Unlimited Leasing's (Mac McKindry (sp.) N6021C which plied its trade throughout the Caribbean and Central America in the mid- late 70s. Later sold off and cought with 36.000 lbs of marijuana in Panama City, FL. Went to Aerochago in the Dominican Republic where it was used until 1988 when it was dbr. in a heavy landing. Later scrapped.

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I looked at a close-up of the original scan, and though cut off by the wing, what I can see of the registration does match with your findings. Thanks for the info!

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Here's a few more shots, starting with Ray Stutsman in "Lil Demon". Anyone know what's become of Ray?

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This I think is at Reading, PA (1974):
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And these are at Suffolk County, NY (Lung-eye-land):
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Mustang 44-74008 crashed in 1975 some place on the east coast

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Looks like Frank and Ruth Sanders.


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The SNJ #87 is still flying in the same markings, owned now by Rick Hosking, Leeward Air Ranch, Fl.

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In that first shot, you might notice the C-82 underneath the departing 737.

Also, does anyone know what the seal is on the one C-54? I think it says USDA, so I guess it was a Department of Agriculture bird?


Not sure about the C-54 logo, the DC-7 is US Overseas Airline (aka US Overloaded) which was founded by former NATS crewmembers hence the similar logo. The -7s bankrupted US Overloaded as they did most non-skeds, in their early (C-54/DC-4) years they had freight contracts to the MidEast and were famous for flight planning to PHL with Bermuda as the alternate and always cancelling the PHL landing after a superficial weather check and then going to the alternate because they didn't have the range to file for Bermuda and have a legal alternate.

The P-51, Tokofugo, is at RDG, not sure of the year but 1974 seems right.

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Not sure about the C-54 logo, the DC-7 is US Overseas Airline (aka US Overloaded) which was founded by former NATS crewmembers hence the similar logo. The -7s bankrupted US Overloaded as they did most non-skeds, in their early (C-54/DC-4) years they had freight contracts to the MidEast and were famous for flight planning to PHL with Bermuda as the alternate and always cancelling the PHL landing after a superficial weather check and then going to the alternate because they didn't have the range to file for Bermuda and have a legal alternate.
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The "US Overseas Airline" DC-7 you are referring to is the one with the faded United Airlines markings I assume. The other one is in FAA markings. Did this airline you say was flown by former NATS crewmembers, actually fly the plane with partial UAL markings and just the logo near the cockpit? Or did it have some other type of markings (along with the LOGO) when flying for this outfit?


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I have some slides of the US Overseas -4's in original livery but it was not uncommon for the non-skeds to paint over the original operators name add the new one and fly a fleet painted in a hodgepodge of liveries.

The answer is this is exactly as it would have been operated.

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That's Dr. Frank Marci's Fiat G-46. As far as I know it is still based at Republic (Farmingdale) Airport.
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Thanks for that info Jerry, you wouldn't have any contact info for him, would you?

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I don't have a contact for him, but when I last saw him back in 2000 it was hangered in the other side of the American Airpower Museum.
You might try contacting the museum to see if they've got a contact # for him.

http://www.americanairpowermuseum.com

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T J Johansen wrote:
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Very likely Unlimited Leasing's (Mac McKindry (sp.) N6021C which plied its trade throughout the Caribbean and Central America in the mid- late 70s. Later sold off and cought with 36.000 lbs of marijuana in Panama City, FL. Went to Aerochago in the Dominican Republic where it was used until 1988 when it was dbr. in a heavy landing. Later scrapped.

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6021C was also involved in a drug run in September 1974, when the plane was discovered at the Winder Airport, Gwinette County, Georgia. Back then, it was the Largest Marijuana Haul in the States history, may still be.

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Neat photo's. Thanks for sharing'em. :D

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I scanned another bunch of slides, so here's some more for some bad-weather/stuck inside viewing:
This was driving around Norfolk in 1978 with Uncle Mike (that DOD sticker did good):
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This is one paint-job I'd like to see a Warbird C-47 in (I'll have to build a model of one too):
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Here's a "data plate" Vimy at Oshkosh 2001:
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Down at Pensacola, the S-44 ready for shipping:
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One of my favorite Mustangs:
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P-38 at Oshkosh 86 or 86:
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And John Schoffner's Jug before the paint job at Willow Run:
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I like the Sepia more than the original:
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