crashed corsair- inland lake in ohio

airnutz · **Posted:** Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:55 pm

Shay, Cheekey Monkey! :roll:

Well, I'll "No be attendin' recoveries wi'
you Laddie..if your the Crew Boss"!!! :shock:

jaybird · **Posted:** Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:52 pm

I read another article in a paper years ago dispelling the myth as well....it had names and photographs of the recovery which took place days after the incident.

As I've said before, 15 years ago when I solo'd at AKR, even with everything else I was concentrating on, at that moment I couldn't help but think of all those FG's making their maiden voyage around that pattern as well. I just hope I get to find out what that's like one day. It certainly was a treat to see Mr. Koh's bird circling there last summer (with Mr. Lane piloting).

Looks like I just might have to finally make a trip to the world of rubber this weekend. If the camera rule does not exist, I'll happily post some pics.

JimH · **Posted:** Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:23 pm

The world of rubber corsair is still there on full view. I toured last summer whilst on vacation. It is a true time capsule, all the stenciling is in place and is a complete cockpit section. I would guess that the entire center section including spar is under the display floor. This is more of an employee and corporate facility and no cameras are allowed. Way back when I logged alot of time in the cockpit, there is now a piece of plexi blocking off access...which is a good thing. It is worth a look if you are ever in akron.

Jim

airnutz · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:44 am

Good point Rob,One historical association documenting another...they'd
probably go for it! How does one go about getting the Jaybird a WIX
Press Pass for this week-end?

AirJimL2 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:44 am

I'll give them a call and find out if an exception can be made. Worth a try.

Jim

Rob Mears · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:19 am

The spar has been cut on this one, about three feet inboard of the wing attachment points. What's left of it is still there under the wooden stage that surrounds the plane.

AirJimL2 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:59 am

Just gave them a call. No cameras and the Corsair section is there. Got another name to try to get permission to get some pictures. They said they don't allow cameras because it damages the items.

Jim

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

AirJimL2 wrote:

They said they don't allow cameras because it damages the items.

Is there any scientific proof of this assertion? I have heard it often, but it sure sounds like an excuse.

RMAllnutt · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:58 pm

The ultra violet light emitted by a camera flash can cause damage to pigments/dyes in paint, etc. It also affects rubber.... so that maybe a reason not to allow it in "The house of Rubber"! It's not one flash they worry about, but the cumulative effects over time of many many thousand flashes. This is one of the reasons you can't take photographs in most art galleries (that, and that they want to sell you books with prints of the paintings in them). However, I cannot imagine that "the house of rubber" gets so many visitors that this is a problem. My understanding is that the building the museum is in is located on a restricted area of the facility, and that photography is discouraged in general at the plant.... it would be hard to enforce this if people were allowed to bring cameras in I guess.

Cheers,
Richard

mrhenniger · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:34 pm

I nevery use a flash, it tends to cause one part of an aircraft to shine, while another part further away appears dark. Time release exposures with your camera on a tripod and using a shutter release cable is the best way to go. Once set-up like that you don't even need 400 or 800 ASA film, 200 or 100 will do just fine. A slower speed film only means each exposure takes a little while longer.

I doubt they would mind picture taking if you didn't use a flash.

Mike

RMAllnutt · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:21 pm

Hi Mike... I agree with you regarding the tripod Mike... it really is the best way to go, and you can set for minimum aperture too, so every detail is sharply focused. Sadly, there are many museums now that are starting to prevent you using tripods. Udvar Hazey is one example. You can use a monopod still, but it really doesn't compare.

Cheers,
Richard

mrhenniger · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:27 pm

RMAllnutt wrote:

Sadly, there are many museums now that are starting to prevent you using tripods.

I am starting to get the impression that museums just don't want visitors! :evil:

Why would then even care :?:

I forgot to mention the small aperature. On my recent trip to the Yanks museum my exposures ranged from 4 to 32 seconds depending on which way I pointed the camera and at what. I also found it help to shade the top of the lense with my hand to prevent spot light glare. Will be going back to the MoF to repeat some shots doing that.

Mike

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:36 pm

No, you have it all wrong; they just want you to bring your own flashlight (torch) so you can find your way around in the dark.

mrhenniger · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:57 pm

TimApNy wrote:

No, you have it all wrong; they just want you to bring your own flashlight (torch) so you can find your way around in the dark.

No no no... You can't do that! They don't know what kind of a flashlight you must bring. It could give off some amount of UV!

What they want their visitors to bring are night vision goggles. :roll:

What's next? Scuba gear so you don't breath near the exhibits?

Mike

P.S. I am just having fun with this BTW. I am not really a raving lunatic. Although some have said... oh nevermind.

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:59 pm

Check out a/c and protend you are a Navy SEAL or SAS if you'd prefer

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