The First Unofficial Oshkosh Airventure 2009 Thread

[Zachary]

I lost all of my numbers in a trajic washing machine accident.

CLASSIC!!!

[mustangdriver]

Yeah, you don't realize how much you depend on your phone, until you lose it.

[Green Goggles]

I can't wait to see the Pattillo Brothers in the "Warbirds in Review" segment on Saturday.

That will be the highlight of my week, no doubt!

[kenair]

I'll be there!

for those who have never been to AirVenture and plan to camp, I've written a guide, a pdf file at http://upaero.com/oshkosh.html
cheers - ken

[hang the expense]

I am glad to the see the yunguns carring on the tradition.Have fun guys and dolls.

[mustangdriver]

We will drink a round to you express

[Dan K]

I'll be there!

for those who have never been to AirVenture and plan to camp, I've written a guide, a pdf file at http://upaero.com/oshkosh.html
cheers - ken

Hi Ken,

I looked through your guide. It looks quite helpful for the first-time Airventure camper.

Users of your guide may wish to note a few changes, as some of your maps showing the grounds and nearby shopping will need to be updated.

Target Department store is still in the same location, but Walmart moved out of the old location several years ago (and is now located a couple miles farther north on the west side of I-41). Also, Pick n Save is located on the east side of Koeller Road.

The Main Gate area for Airventure, as well as the immediate roads and walkways inside, are being completely redone. You may wish to somehow link viewers to the following information from the EAA website:

http://www.airventure.org/siteplan/siteplanphotos1.html

http://airventuresiteupdate.blogspot.com/

The jet mounted in front of the museum is an F-86 (rather than an F-84 as stated).

And for travelers coming from the south on I-41, you encourage them to use the Exit 116 ramp, and then to turn around and head back south on Koeller and Poberezny Roads to get to Camp Scholler. Is there a reason why you don't use Exit 113 and just come north on Poberezny Road? If people arrive during the week of Airventure, the gridlock by Exit 116 can sometimes be pretty bad, yet I have never had any slowdowns driving up Poberezny Road from the south, whether heading for the campgrounds or day parking. I admit that one would miss out on that initial view of all the parked aircraft alongside 9/27 though.

My last little tidbit for the day would be that you either forgot or just didn't know about the best little meal deal at Airventure: The Sacred Heart food stand, located between the main gates and the bus circle...lower prices for breakfast and lunch than you'll find anywhere else on the grounds. Maybe check it out this July and rate it for next year's guide.

[JBoyle]

Too late to get a room?

I just heard that Jill Rutan-Hoffman's new book First Flights will be officially launched there.

I contributed a chapter about my experinces learning to fly a Bell 47.

It would be fun to go...I've never been and I'm not getting any younger.

[Dan K]

Too late to get a room?

I just heard that Jill Rutan-Hoffman's new book First Flights will be officially launched there.

I contributed a chapter about my experinces learning to fly a Bell 47.

It would be fun to go...I've never been and I'm not getting any younger.

This will be a must-read for your situation.

http://www.airventure.org/planning/

[kenair]

Hi, thanks for the tips, I'll see if I can those into the airventure camping guide http://upaero.com/oshkosh.html this or next week.

I showed the 116 exit to keep it simple for the first timers and to give them the thrill of coming off the overpass ramp and seeing the 1000's of aircraft parked before them.

I'll add the note of exit 113, you are right about the grid lock.

...Hotels - I stayed in Stevens Point on one trip, 1.25 hour drive but worth it.

this may also help - call the hotels direct around the Appleton area, donot say you are coming for the airshow, say it is a business meeting or family wedding.

I have found hotels book off large blocks of rooms for special events but keep a few open for regular travellers, this has worked for me at other events a couple of times.

One is never too old to go to OSH, one year I went with a 68, 72 and 80 year old, I could barely keep up to them.
cheers - ken

[Zachary]

2009 “WARBIRDS IN REVIEW”

Monday July 27
10 am: Blacksheep Squadron Pilot, Lt. Col. Jim Hill w/F4U Corsair (aircraft owners: Dave Folk, Dan Schiffer)
1 pm: Paul Poberezny & Herb Carper w/ PT-19 and PT-26 (owners: Herb Carper [PT-19] and CAF Wisconsin Wing [PT-26])

Tuesday July 28
10 am: Vintage Wings of Canada w/ P-40 & Hurricane (owner: Vintage Wings of Canada)
1 pm: T.R. Swartz w/ A-4 (owner: Paul Wood)

Wednesday July 29
10 am: “Ravens” Jack Drummond & Ed Gunter with Test Pilot Bob Hoover w/ T-28 – Highlighting the 60th Anniversary of T-28 (owner: Scott Boudreaux)
1 pm: Bud Anderson and Jack Roush w/ P-51B “Old Crow” and P-51D “Old Crow” (owners: Jack Roush and Jim Hagedorn)

Thursday July 30
10 am: Brad Lang w/P-51 Mustang “Red Tail” (owner: CAF)
1 pm: Gunther Rall w/ ME-109E & Hispano 109 (owners: Russell Aviation Group & Cavanaugh Flight Museum)

Friday July 31
10 am: Chuck Downey w/ Wildcat and SNJ-5 (owners: Mike Gillian & Mike Murphy)
1 pm: Joe Engle (X-15 50th Anniversary) w/ F-86 Sabre (aircraft TBD)

Saturday August 1
10 am: Rod Lewis & Bob Cardin w/ P-38 “Glacier Girl” (owner: Rod Lewis)
1 pm: Bill & Buck Patillo w/ P-51 Mustangs (owner: Bob Baker)

Sunday August 2
10 am: Bill & Scott Yoak w/ P-51 “Quick Silver” (owner: Bill & Scott Yoak)

[Dan K]

2009 “WARBIRDS IN REVIEW”

Monday July 27
10 am: Blacksheep Squadron Pilot, Lt. Col. Jim Hill w/F4U Corsair (aircraft owners: Dave Folk, Dan Schiffer)
1 pm: Paul Poberezny & Herb Carper w/ PT-19 and PT-26 (owners: Herb Carper [PT-19] and CAF Wisconsin Wing [PT-26])

Tuesday July 28
10 am: Vintage Wings of Canada w/ P-40 & Hurricane (owner: Vintage Wings of Canada)
1 pm: T.R. Swartz w/ A-4 (owner: Paul Wood)

Wednesday July 29
10 am: “Ravens” Jack Drummond & Ed Gunter with Test Pilot Bob Hoover w/ T-28 – Highlighting the 60th Anniversary of T-28 (owner: Scott Boudreaux)
1 pm: Bud Anderson and Jack Roush w/ P-51B “Old Crow” and P-51D “Old Crow” (owners: Jack Roush and Jim Hagedorn)

Thursday July 30
10 am: Brad Lang w/P-51 Mustang “Red Tail” (owner: CAF)
1 pm: Gunther Rall w/ ME-109E & Hispano 109 (owners: Russell Aviation Group & Cavanaugh Flight Museum)

Friday July 31
10 am: Chuck Downey w/ Wildcat and SNJ-5 (owners: Mike Gillian & Mike Murphy)
1 pm: Joe Engle (X-15 50th Anniversary) w/ F-86 Sabre (aircraft TBD)

Saturday August 1
10 am: Rod Lewis & Bob Cardin w/ P-38 “Glacier Girl” (owner: Rod Lewis)
1 pm: Bill & Buck Patillo w/ P-51 Mustangs (owner: Bob Baker)

Sunday August 2
10 am: Bill & Scott Yoak w/ P-51 “Quick Silver” (owner: Bill & Scott Yoak)

I still don't see the most important date of all.

The huddled masses, yearning for brat and beer, cry, "When, Zack, when?"

[Mike]

2009 “WARBIRDS IN REVIEW”

Thursday July 30
........
1 pm: Gunther Rall w/ ME-109E & Hispano 109 (owners: Russell Aviation Group & Cavanaugh Flight Museum)

Does this mean they're trucking the Cananaugh Buchon in, or are they planning to start flying it again?

[mustangdriver]

2009 “WARBIRDS IN REVIEW”

Monday July 27
10 am: Blacksheep Squadron Pilot, Lt. Col. Jim Hill w/F4U Corsair (aircraft owners: Dave Folk, Dan Schiffer)
1 pm: Paul Poberezny & Herb Carper w/ PT-19 and PT-26 (owners: Herb Carper [PT-19] and CAF Wisconsin Wing [PT-26])

Tuesday July 28
10 am: Vintage Wings of Canada w/ P-40 & Hurricane (owner: Vintage Wings of Canada)
1 pm: T.R. Swartz w/ A-4 (owner: Paul Wood)

Wednesday July 29
10 am: “Ravens” Jack Drummond & Ed Gunter with Test Pilot Bob Hoover w/ T-28 – Highlighting the 60th Anniversary of T-28 (owner: Scott Boudreaux)
1 pm: Bud Anderson and Jack Roush w/ P-51B “Old Crow” and P-51D “Old Crow” (owners: Jack Roush and Jim Hagedorn)

Thursday July 30
10 am: Brad Lang w/P-51 Mustang “Red Tail” (owner: CAF)
1 pm: Gunther Rall w/ ME-109E & Hispano 109 (owners: Russell Aviation Group & Cavanaugh Flight Museum)

Friday July 31
10 am: Chuck Downey w/ Wildcat and SNJ-5 (owners: Mike Gillian & Mike Murphy)
1 pm: Joe Engle (X-15 50th Anniversary) w/ F-86 Sabre (aircraft TBD)

Saturday August 1
10 am: Rod Lewis & Bob Cardin w/ P-38 “Glacier Girl” (owner: Rod Lewis)
1 pm: Bill & Buck Patillo w/ P-51 Mustangs (owner: Bob Baker)

Sunday August 2
10 am: Bill & Scott Yoak w/ P-51 “Quick Silver” (owner: Bill & Scott Yoak)

I still don't see the most important date of all.

The huddled masses, yearning for brat and beer, cry, "When, Zack, when?"

That is the one I am waiting for as well.

[Dan K]

Time for an Airventure warbird update. This time we'll check on current CAF involvement:

In addition to the previously-announced intended attendants (Redtail P-51C and B-25 Yellow Rose)...

The SoCal Wing is planning to get two aircraft to OSH this summer. The current plan is to get the F6F as far east as Geneseo and then stop in Wisconsin for a while on her way home. The A6M is also scheduled to attend (as of now).

The Devil Dog bunch is also planning a return in '09.

And without a doubt the most regular CAF presence at OSH has been P-51D Gunfighter (I'm sure the largest annual gathering of Mustangs has something to do with that). Sounds like she'll be selling rides out of Fond du Lac most of the week.

Of course, the Wisconsin Wing will again be showing off their delightful PT-26.

As always, updates to this list are most welcome. Rumors, tall tales, and lies are also commonly accepted.