A few older pics from up here, a request by The Col. :)

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:34 pm

krlang wrote:

The group made the mistake of setting up on the ramp in front of the FSDO. :shock:

It seems as though this story has become a part of mythic New England Warbird lore. :wink:

whistlingdeath77 · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:59 pm

the story lives on chris!

Jerry O'Neill · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:47 pm

I believe that some, if not all of the planes were grounded at Stratford by the FAA. It seems that they were being flown from display airport to display airport on ferry permits. The aircraft were supposed to be "fixed" before they left Stratford.
Well, in the classic way DT operated, they simple took off for their next display airport, which just happened to be Bradley Int'l Airport, and the ramp that they were displaying on was directly in front of the FSDO's offices! Needless to say, nobody was happy. The 17 and 24 were there for almost 2 years before the required repairs were done to the satisfaction of the FAA inspectors.
Jerry

kalamazookid · **Posted:** Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:15 am

Warbird Kid wrote:

Frank,

Joe is with Kermit Weeks down in Polk City Florida. She hasn't flown in 10 to 15 years if Im not mistaken. Boy do I wish he (or if not him some other group) would operate that bird. The world needs more than just 2 Liberators in the air!

Kalamazoo Kid,

I have that exact video of the Wings of Eagles Airshow! 91 I think. Did Dan call his Yak "The Eagle and the Bear" or the act he performed in it?

And I remember that last shot well with Fuddy Duddy, Movie Memphis Belle, Yankee Lady, and Miss Hap up at Elmira. Was that 99 or 2000? Or 2001? Cant remember but I do remember the weather being less than stellar. Miss those shows but not as much as what Geneseo used to be.

Just pulled out my copy of the video, turns out mine is from 1995. Highlights are an interview with Dan Caldarale about a P-51, John Ellis talking about the Air Zoo Tigercat, Dan McQue with Yak and of course the heavy bombers. Lots of old familiar P-51s in the background too.

I remember buying the video the first time I saw "Fuddy Duddy", when it came to an event at Kalamazoo in either 1996 or 97. I was about 7 or 8 years old at the time and my Dad bought it for me so I could watch airshows in the winter instead of holding my own with all my toy airplanes on the kitchen table.

I never had the pleasure of attending a show at Batavia or Geneseo. When I was little my Dad and I always talked about taking a road trip to one of the shows but it never happened before WoE ended its run. I do wish more shows made DVDs or maybe a small commemorative book about what was there. It would be neat to have something in additional program. I have several videos from older airshows- one from the 1990s Elkhart shows, one from the Wings of Eagles 1995 show and a couple of the Warbirds Over Kalamazoo shows. Always fun to throw in on a winter day and crank up the volume

whistlingdeath77 · **Posted:** Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:47 pm

Jerry O'Neill wrote:

I believe that some, if not all of the planes were grounded at Stratford by the FAA. It seems that they were being flown from display airport to display airport on ferry permits. The aircraft were supposed to be "fixed" before they left Stratford.
Well, in the classic way DT operated, they simple took off for their next display airport, which just happened to be Bradley Int'l Airport, and the ramp that they were displaying on was directly in front of the FSDO's offices! Needless to say, nobody was happy. The 17 and 24 were there for almost 2 years before the required repairs were done to the satisfaction of the FAA inspectors.
Jerry

AH! so it is true! I remember going down 75 and seeing the hanger open and there was the belle, sitting and wating to be fixed up. I didn't know that the B-24 also stayed there as well. Where did they house that bomber Jerry?

Jerry O'Neill · **Posted:** Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:11 pm

Most of the time they were there, they were outside the hangar.
Jerry

whistlingdeath77 · **Posted:** Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:44 am

Jerry O'Neill wrote:

Most of the time they were there, they were outside the hangar.
Jerry

Now, New England legend has it Jerry that they continued to find you in the ball turret of the B-17 trying to fly back with them. Can you confirm this? :lol:

JohnH · **Posted:** Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:49 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:

whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:

i believe that b-24 can still fly correct?

Tallichet brought Joe to Geneseo one year but never actually flew in and landed it there. Apparently he based it out of Rochester? Bativia? and only did fly overs because it had timed out engines and he didn't want to burn them out trying to unstick himself from the grass at Geneseo. That and apparently its not recommended to operate a 24 off a grass strip with that nose wheel but the CF didn't seem to have any trouble when they brought All American in there.

1989, He based it out of Rochester. The official video from that year is awesome. It was an amazing airshow- 5 B-17s, B-24 and the CWH Lanc. The show was my first published story and I sure picked a good show to start.

krlang · **Posted:** Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:40 pm

My favorite NE Fokelore story was...

Taking off out of NJ to go to OQU with a bad engine. Shutting it down after takeoff.
About halfway there the approach controller asked if they needed any assitance.
A passing airliner saw a B-24 with one engine feathered and asked if he was seeing correctly.
Took them a while to get it out of Quonset too, a cylinder had departed its base studs.

Those were the days.

Steve Nelson · **Posted:** Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:12 am

kalamazookid wrote:

I remember buying the video the first time I saw "Fuddy Duddy", when it came to an event at Kalamazoo in either 1996 or 97. I was about 7 or 8 years old at the time and my Dad bought it for me so I could watch airshows in the winter instead of holding my own with all my toy airplanes on the kitchen table.

That would have been the summer of '97. For whatever reason the Air Zoo hosted three or four B-17s over the course of the year; Yankee Lady, Fuddy Duddy and the Collings bombers. Aluminum Overcast may have paid a visit as well, I'm not sure. I was volunteering as a docent at the Air Zoo back then, and worked at Rider's Hobbies breifly. You're making me feel old..I was in my early 30s then!

Your home grown airshow really takes me back. After we first saw the CAF at a show at Selfridge AFB in 1977, my friends and I held several airshows in the driveway with our models. We were trying to recreate all the planes we'd seen at the show. I went so far as to strip all the turrets off my Monogram B-17 and and give it the weird green paint job Texas Raiders carried at the time. I also painted my Monogram B-24J up as Diamond Lil, not realizing she was supposed to represent a D-model.

SN

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