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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:52 pm 
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Steve Pierce wrote:
I was under the impression that it was pretty accurate to scale. Where does it differ?


Pretty much everywhere.

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Yeah, the pilot is too big...


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As much as I like the Supermarine Spitfire Mk.26B, it is a bit "cartoonish" from some angles. Still, I wouldn't say no if offered one!

They used to make a single-seat version at 75% scale, the Mk.25, which looked really nice, and was a good shape, but discontinued it in favour of the bigger two-seater model.

The best Spitfire replica I've seen is probably the 80% Mk.I that was flying about Canada a few years back. There's a nice little 70% job, too, that's been around for a long time.

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Does anyone know how much the kits start at? My dad's about ready to break down and buy one.

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$168K for the airframe and $46K for the engine. Very complete kit with lots already assembled from what I saw.

http://www.aopa.org/sunnfun/2012/120327 ... n-fun.html

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Steve Pierce wrote:
$168K for the airframe and $46K for the engine. Very complete kit with lots already assembled from what I saw.

http://www.aopa.org/sunnfun/2012/120327 ... n-fun.html


Now that seems extremely expensive to me.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:53 pm 
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Now that seems extremely expensive to me.


Hardly. Very much in line with what I paid to build a Falco some years ago, adjusting for current dollar value. Though I'll bet the Falco is a far more complete set of kits (subkits).


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Mark Allen M wrote:
Steve Pierce wrote:
$168K for the airframe and $46K for the engine. Very complete kit with lots already assembled from what I saw.

http://www.aopa.org/sunnfun/2012/120327 ... n-fun.html


Now that seems extremely expensive to me.


I would be thinking T-6, T-28, T-33 in that $$ range. (Courtesy Aircarft Sales)

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Mark Allen M wrote:
Mark Allen M wrote:
Steve Pierce wrote:
$168K for the airframe and $46K for the engine. Very complete kit with lots already assembled from what I saw.

http://www.aopa.org/sunnfun/2012/120327 ... n-fun.html


Now that seems extremely expensive to me.


I would be thinking T-6, T-28, T-33 in that $$ range. (Courtesy Aircarft Sales)

If you think $168K is pricy, check the list price on a new Pawnee Divison straffer (CESSNA 172) :shock:

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If you think $168K is pricy, check the list price on a new Pawnee Divison straffer (CESSNA 172)


More like "over 200K" but what's an extra 50K, and is there an extra seat in the back of that thing? :wink:

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daveymac82c wrote:
There are some people that are local to me who are building beautiful and "SPOT ON" 80% Sptifires. They're gorgeous and the only difference you'll notice is the size of the pilot, otherwise it's almost exactly to scale. I should visit them in Pitt Meadows and provide you guys and gals with pictures of their work. They're using wood for the main construction material, but darn, they're pretty airplanes!

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Hi David,

When you say '"SPOT ON" 80% Spitfires', do you know if that includes the cockpit width? Is the cockpit 20% smaller than the original? That would be really small - a tight fit for a lot of people.

I have read that scaled a/c most often deviate from the fuselage width because the volume varies as the cube and scaled cockpits are just too tiny.

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The "Tally Ho" 80% scale Spitfire replica is probably the best I've seen. If there are disrepancies they are very minor.

http://www.spitfirebuilder.4t.com/custom2.html

Ross Fergusun's Mk.XII was pretty spectacular as well, although it does suffer a bit more than the Tally Ho airplane in terms of accuracy.

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Unfortunately, both of the above replicas have been wrecked and are not yet flying again.


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Not the best pic of the Tally-ho Spitfire Mk.I, but....

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Got to love the Ross Ferguson Spitfire, though. That's as near as dammit scaled down exactly (approx. 70%) externally.

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Saville wrote:

Hi David,

When you say '"SPOT ON" 80% Spitfires', do you know if that includes the cockpit width? Is the cockpit 20% smaller than the original? That would be really small - a tight fit for a lot of people.

I have read that scaled a/c most often deviate from the fuselage width because the volume varies as the cube and scaled cockpits are just too tiny.

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I bolded the key point. An 80% scale cockpit has 80% of the width, 80% of the height, and 80% of the depth. It nets about 50% of the volume of the original. That makes scaled replica fighters a challenge.

I think the 90% replica is very nice. Sure, the cockpit has been moved forward to permit a jump seat, and the spinner isn't right, but the airplane is very recognizable as a Spitfire.


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There is always the Marcel Jurca MJ-10 and MJ-100 plans built:


MJ-10 = 75%
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