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Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:04 pm
The Austrian hybrid has moved to Finland according to my German sources.
Dave
Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:15 pm
Here's an interesting shot.

The Battle of Britain Film 1969 B25 Camera Ship "The Monster"
Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:17 am
Formation of CASAs in the 60s, photo taken by a passing 10TRW RF-4C from Alconbury:

(Image: Stanitz Collection, ARG Archive)
Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:54 pm
Mark Allen M wrote:Here's an interesting shot.

The Battle of Britain Film 1969 B25 Camera Ship "The Monster"
You missed a bit......
Jeff Hawke's B-25 camera ship was called 'The Psychedelic Monster' owing to the multi coloured scheme worn to make it identifiable in the air.
Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:05 am
RAMC181 wrote:Formation of CASAs in the 60s, photo taken by a passing 10TRW RF-4C from Alconbury:

(Image: Stanitz Collection, ARG Archive)
Wow that's so interesting. Its like a European version of the movie The Final Count Down but the odd part is this was in the real world!! What the Spanish think they would accomplish using their HE-111's vs B-52s and their 109s against F-4s
Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:44 am
David, I don't think the Spanish thought to go against the B-52's and F-4's with them, by that time the Spanish had jets. Their days were numbered and were probably more like reserve units. If you think about it, the Marines were still using C-117's (Super DC-3's) into the late 1970's.
Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:09 pm
davidwomacks wrote:Wow that's so interesting. Its like a European version of the movie The Final Count Down but the odd part is this was in the real world!!
Another similar thing happened in the UK during the BofB filming when a RAF Canberra accidentally strayed into the NOTAM area set aside for filming and they came out of cloud to find themselves among a formation of 109's.....much to the Canberra crews shock!!
Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:00 pm
I understand the "109s" had already been retired, and were waiting to be scrapped. A local scrapper thought he had a deal wrapped up, but then the film producers came in, undercut him and bought the lot. All of them required a bit of work to get flying again. If it hadn't been for the movie, ther would likely only be a couple of Buchons in museums.
SN
Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:45 pm
Here are a couple of interesting photos. Showing Casa's at the autumn of their operational life with the Spanish Air force.
Casa 2.111 in the background at Palma de Mallorca 1969
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled ... 0492989/L/Casa 2.111 flying at Gran Canaria 1973.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Spain--- ... 0166013/L/T J
Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:09 am
Jerry O'Neill wrote:David, I don't think the Spanish thought to go against the B-52's and F-4's with them, by that time the Spanish had jets. Their days were numbered and were probably more like reserve units. If you think about it, the Marines were still using C-117's (Super DC-3's) into the late 1970's.
The Spanish started getting T-33's and F-86K's in 1955, but there were political restrictions(tho, there were some exceptions when some of that materiel was older piston stuff) by the US against them being used for "colonial expeditions". Beginning in 1957 the Ifni War and Western-Sahara troubles had the Spanish employ the Buchon's and Pedro's(CASA 2.111's) against the rebels. The Buchons were replaced in '65 and the Pedro's went a bit longer to about '70....if my understanding of the Spanish websites and Wiki have it right. Arguably, the birds were frontline in the deployment....
Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:32 am
To put the shoe on the other foot, I think we had a missed chance for "El Dambusteros" in 1991 using Avro Shackletons.
Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:00 pm
O.K. That's pretty funny!
Andy
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