Please help ID suspected early Jet Age wreckage

Russ Matthews · **Posted:** Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:17 am

CheckSix wrote:

The one problem I see is that 18 SE of Monterey is dry land...

Ha! That WOULD be a problem ...

CheckSix wrote:

I'll see if I can fish the accident report out of the navy archives to better narrow down the actual crash site.

Thanks. I'm sure that will be greatly appreciated.

Russ Matthews · **Posted:** Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:23 am

gtokid wrote:

The hose should have a manufacture date stamped on it. Modern aircraft hose has a "Q" date, like 4Q99 would be 4th quarter of 1999. Old hose may be different.

Yes. In fact, the parts manual supports just what you're saying.

However, I believe the date information is slightly different ... indicated on the hose by the marking "3/56" (meaning "third quarter of 1956"). Of course, that would also be in line with the 1957 Crusader crash.

PropsRule · **Posted:** Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:18 am

"gtokid" brought up an excellent point with regards to the cure date on the hoses. I seem to recall that way, way back the date format changed to the "xQxx" format we use today. If there is an older, maybe "month/year" format that was used once upon a time, maybe it's described in good ol' AC43.13 or something.

maxum96 · **Posted:** Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:51 pm

CheckSix wrote:

That assumes the locations from the news articles, and the engine's, match up.

I meant to add the caveat "if they get a match on serial numbers."

CoastieJohn · **Joined:** Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:37 pm **Posts:** 1380

Just to close a possible loop hole I was thinking about and didn't see asked.....

Can anyone confirm that can was only used on a J57 and no other type of engine?

CheckSix · **Joined:** Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:27 pm **Posts:** 5

Just got the accident report from the Navy...

F-8U 143704 accident report at Check-Six.com

grch · **Joined:** Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:38 pm **Posts:** 1

Hello , I'm the researcher that discovered the Jet Engine in Monterey Bay and have recently joined the forum. I also discovered the submerged remains of the USS Macon Airship
off the California coast. First off the folks that contributed in identification of this jet engine did a fantastic job . This was discovered in 2014 and I sent out requests to a
number of organisations and did not get far so all your input has re-catalyzed our efforts and been invaluable.

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Once the jet was ID from a F8 we have discovered 6 incidents around Monterey Bay .

147006 Mid Air Collision (Johnson) 7-1960
147014 Mid Air Collision (Metzler) 7-1960
145414 Safe ejection over water - (Hellman ) 9-1959
142415 ??
143704 Safe ejection over water - (Jones ) 9-1957
??? Mid Air explosion ( Aillaud ) 10-1959

> I'm in the process of contacting Jones from 143704 via snailmail . Thanks for the accident report ! I'll read tonight
> We are in direct contact with Hellman 145414 to obtain further information.
> I have located a witness to the mid collison who was fishing , but the fix is in LORAN A . Is there a way to get the accident reports for 147006 and 147014 ?????
> Trying to get details on Aillaud from the 1959 crash .

Judging by the images we obtained I think the site has more than just the Jet engine at our wreckage site . Speed brake hose and
Bleed air duct feeding forward under the wing of the aircraft.

Many Thanks , will keep you folks updated as we go along.

grch

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